frost ate his first gecko!!

[jojackson]

who cares if a pet shop guy is stoned its not like he's a pilot or a city bus driver .

Until he hands you your chameleon in a bag of water with air in the top?
"Dude that is like, one freaky fish"!

 

[Chameleoco]

Fal, is it really illegal to feed pinky mice here in the UK, i do not do this, but we have thought about it. I obviously know that you can feed frozen mice to snakes, but is it really illegal to feed them alive? that is an interesting bit of knowledge!

 

[jojackson]

Not sure about the Uk but it is illegal in some places. Legality aside, feeding live mice (bigger than pinkies/pinkies barely have teeth) is a risky buisness. A cornered rodent (no place to go inside an enclosed space) will fight for its life, whats more, if the snake proves not to be hungry, and they are left unattended, your snake can become the meal!
Frozen is safer and more convenient!

 

[eisentrauti]

Maybe some guys still think this is "haha"

 

[slowfoot]

The geckos and anoles are wild caught in Florida - there's no question about that. The house geckos are collected in urban settings (because that's where they're most common) where they've been exposed to all kinds of pesticides and household chemicals.

There's no way I'd ever feed any of these to one of my reptiles. Besides the issue of not knowing what the lizards were exposed to before they were caught, I would never feed a reptile to another reptile just because of the possibility of transmitting lizard-specific disease. It's totally possible that wild caught lizards have fewer parasites than captive bred, but it also seems silly to risk feeding your cham a lizard that may be carrying a disease that affects reptiles, and can easily jump from one species to another. I mean, we recommend quarantining any new arrivals in our collections, right? How could feeding a new arrival to my cham be safer?

 

[Chameleoco]

do you know what, i didnt even think of the fact the mouse would be active still and the possibility of the mouse attacking! duhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[jojackson]

do you know what, i didnt even think of the fact the mouse would be active still and the possibility of the mouse attacking! duhhhhhhhhhhh

I think its illegal in places because unrealistic people like the S.P.C.A are concerned for the mouse/rat, rather than any concern for the snake.
These people dont want to know if its not cute and furry.

Despite the commonsense of what ive illustrated above, some people still feed live, for various reasons, but I beleive the genuine ones only do it because their particular snake simply refuses to take dead prey. (it does happen on occasion and that would leave little choice). Though most can be taught to accept dead prey through various means and persistance.

Such laws are hardly ever enforced simply because they cant be. Ive never heard of anyone being charged or incurring any penalty for feeding live mice/rats.

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Slowfoot good point, though in fairness I think parasites are more likely than disease through ingested reptile prey, given the assumption that the anole/gecko etc you feed it isnt in contact for long before its eaten. (note: assumption) Most disease is spread through droppings, bites and so on, so/but in theory thats possible! Good thinking.

 

[Bay687]

Since this first topic was about Frost eating a gecko i figured i would show you the new pics i took of frost, he was getting annoyed after awhile haha, and the lights messed with some of the pics, he looks black in some of them, but he's really colorful at 6 months .. thanks to Chad from Tiki Tiki Reptiles .. Frost is 50% Red Bar Ambilobe 50% Nosy Be