Flucker's gut loading products, questions

[VeiledOwner87]

i went to petsmart today and grabbed Flucker's high calcium cricket diet and the Flucker's cricket quencher calcium fortified. now i want reviews by anybody experienced with theses products before i use them or bring them back. along with a supply of fruits and veggies, primary "romaine, celary, carrots, sweet potatoes, blueberry, raspberry, apple and orange" as well as the drie gutloads i use "plain oats and bee polen" is this even nessesary? or should i add some of this to their diet? like, these products added wont hurt right? im just a little worried and skeptic about it being "high calcium" and "calcium fortified". i have a 7 month old veiled (female) she is dusted with rep cal 3 times a week, rep cal with D3 twice a month and exo-terra multivtamin twice a month. the multi vitamin has actually just been added back to the suppliment schedual. i will be switich to herptivite in the very near future. so please, some insight before i even think to use this product with the remaining diet the crickets are on now (stated above) and teh suppliment schedual. thanks guys

 

[skully23]

I use the same cricket food. The high calcium diet. I have had no problems with it and crickets eat it up. Its good to add other things like the fruits/veggies you listed. But dont be using oranges..I think your suppose to avoid because of the citric acid. Also I don't think celray will do anything. Isn't it like iceberg lettuce?

 

[VeiledOwner87]

i know celery and apparent ice burg lettuce have no nutritional value, i guess i just use it for an added quencher. ive read oranges are fine to use, ive even seen in a few threads people using limes!?? lol but glad to hear youve had good use with this. how long have you been using it for?

could anybody else add imput aswell??

 

[panthercham]

Check out sandrachameleon blogs on food nutrition on different fruits and vegs. Its a wealth of knowledge and will answer most of your questions.

Orange is fine to use as a gutload

 

[VeiledOwner87]

i have read her blog. whenever i am unsure of a fruite or veg i mosie on down there lol. im just limited to what kinds of fruits and veggies the family fridge has. so i use as much as i can. BUT MORE IMPUT ABOUT THE FLUCKERS PRODUCT AND SUPPLIMENTS!! lol

 

[FroggtheCham]

I've been using the fluker's high calcium feed for a year with good results. I used one container of the quencher just to try it. Dries out fast, and is expensive. Carrots and fruit work better in my opinion. I keep around 1000 crickets or so at a time. I don't use romain, but collard, mustard, turnip and dandelion greens.

 

[panthercham]

i have read her blog. whenever i am unsure of a fruite or veg i mosie on down there lol. im just limited to what kinds of fruits and veggies the family fridge has. so i use as much as i can. BUT MORE IMPUT ABOUT THE FLUCKERS PRODUCT AND SUPPLIMENTS!! lol

Well then.....I don't use them as there are better product available.

You are better off giving your feeders good quality varied fruit and veg which you seem to be doing and then using something like cricket crack (from Tiki Tiki or Simsswiss) which is a far more superior product as the dry gutload and if you do a search on cricket crack you will see it is used by many experienced keepers.

Return the products and order some crack

 

[VeiledOwner87]

yeah ive been seeing cricket crack, but the thing is, i am a recovered crack addict so its not something in my view....... no just kidding, but i live in canada and am just not willing to spend all of that money that i dont have on shipping and border fees, ect. that is why i am asking around about fluckers. to the previous poster. it isnt too expensive here, petsmart in windsor canada are all restocking their inventory, so i found mine at 4.99 a jar. i didnt pay a cent considering the first purchase was covered with a refundable merchant card, and i recieved a call in survey for 3$ off which i did in the parking lot, went back and got the quencher. lol

 

[FroggtheCham]

yeah ive been seeing cricket crack, but the thing is, i am a recovered crack addict so its not something in my view....... no just kidding, but i live in canada and am just not willing to spend all of that money that i dont have on shipping and border fees, ect. that is why i am asking around about fluckers. to the previous poster. it isnt too expensive here, petsmart in windsor canada are all restocking their inventory, so i found mine at 4.99 a jar. i didnt pay a cent considering the first purchase was covered with a refundable merchant card, and i recieved a call in survey for 3$ off which i did in the parking lot, went back and got the quencher. lol

Sorry, I should have been more specific!!! The feed is very inexpensive, the quencher is expensive here!!! The feed is the same price here! I feel ur pain with the shipping. I pay and arm and a leg to ship stuff across the country here! I can p/u the fluker's locally and save the shipping costs for the feeders that I have to ship.

 

[skully23]

i know celery and apparent ice burg lettuce have no nutritional value, i guess i just use it for an added quencher. ive read oranges are fine to use, ive even seen in a few threads people using limes!?? lol but glad to hear youve had good use with this. how long have you been using it for?

could anybody else add imput aswell??

I've been using it since last year. I'm about out because I keep alot of crickets (1,000+) at a time. The crickets love it and its never a waste. Trust me its ok to buy. I got mine at $4 as well. and I agree with the cricket crack. You dont have to get atm..it is expensive. The fruits and veggies make up for the rest.

Also if you have dandelions in your yard and they never been sprayed..go collect the leaves and keep them. Crickets love those too

 

[jamncristian]

you can make your own gut load with ingredients like

turnip greens
collard greens
mustard greens
carrots
spirulina
papaya
oranges
bee pollen
etc.......

 

[BocaJan]

I am a Cricket Crack fanatic. I love the stuff and so do the crickets. I buy 5000 to 6000 crickets about every 2 weeks and they stay alive with that and the water crystals. I give them a carrot, potato or orange from time to time, but I find that too much of the veggies cause flies and a moist environment for the crickets to lay their eggs. ECKKKK

If you only have one chameleon a pound of crack will last you for months.

 

[VeiledOwner87]

thanks for all of the replies guys. im going to give this flucker's a try, i will not be purchasing the cricket crack, maybe in the distant future. one last question. since this is a high-calcium feed. would it hurt keep my chams on the same suppliment schedual? no D3 3 times a week, D3 twice a month. i have just started maintaing this suppliment schedual. so i have also added 2 dustings of multivitamins a month. i should bump that down to once ever month? considering all of the vitamins the feed fruits and veggies make?

 

[Elizadolots]

I'm not "anti-Fluckers" in any way...I do sort of think that the high calcium version is questionable because it contains D3. That's a vitamin that encourages the absorption of calcium. That seems great, but it turns out, it also inhibits the ability of the body to process Vitamin A...so, getting that every single day is probably not the best idea for your chameleons. And, every decision you make about feeding your crickets has to be "what is good for my chameleon?".

 

[tananda]

I've been using both the diet & quencher for a few years, but only for chams for a few months. As far as I've seen, the stuff is ok as long as you also give them fresh fruit & veggies. I like having a little of the quencher in there just in case the veggies get too dry.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

Well I for one have used all three products. Both the flukers dry high cal gutload and their orange cubes. I have also ordered crick crack from our fellow forum member Steve/Simsswiss.

The Flukers is ok. Have you read the ingredient list on it. I personally like to only use all natural products whenever possible with all my animals. For that reason I dont care for the Flukers products. Although I do use what I have left on my Dubia colony cuz they eat anything. lol And Im not feeding them off presently.

Crick Crack is the way to go def. Just reading the ingredient list on the packageing will tell you straight away its a far superior product for your feeders and your chams. Plus as an added bonus the cricks love the stuff. That plus fresh veggies and fruits = healthy chams. Jmo

 

[VeiledOwner87]

thanks again guys for everything, as the one poster said "think whats best for your cham" i am willing to try it out since a lot of you guys have also used it and have had fine results. in regards to all the ingredients that may not be so much natural like cricket crack, i will give the crickets this feed once every 2 weeks? and if this feed with the bee pollen and fresh fruits and veggies i give, will eliminate a multi-vitamin suppliment altogether as well as give D3 once every month, or once every two months? any experienced supplimenters think this would be alright?