jajeanpierre
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My second long-term captive T.q.graciliors female laid a clutch of eggs I hope are fertile. She was bred only six weeks ago. They look really good except one. If they hatch it will be a second line of graciliors.
Fingers and Toes Crossed
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Chameleon Mike
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Good luck
bobcochran
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Congratulations !!
6 weeks? That's a pretty short gestation isn't it? Have your gracilior been on that schedule regularly?
6 weeks? That's a pretty short gestation isn't it? Have your gracilior been on that schedule regularly?
guanagator
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Very exciting!
jpowell86
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I was wondering the same thing Bob. I have always been under the impression that quadricornis have a gestation of 120-130 days.
But, I could not tell you where I heard or read that information. It is just stored away in the chameleon section of my brain.
While writing this I was thinking that montium had a gestation of 60 days. Maybe I am mixing the two species up in my head. I don't know. I will have to try and find this information.
MeruJack
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Very cool! Nice job. How long is the incubation period?
bobcochran
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My q. Quads go 60-80 days. 6 weeks isn't far off, just kind of short. 14 days or so.
jajeanpierre
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That's my fear as well, that these will be infertile eggs ( because she was bred too late in the cycle) but she might have retained sperm for the next clutch. I think she had been receptive for some time before she was bred. She only allowed two days of breedings. She was bred last November by her previous owner and produced a clutch that all went bad and then produced an infertile clutch for me in April. I just hope she actually produces babies and it was just bad luck/timing/ something unrelated to her reproductive health. The good news is that these eggs look really good except for one. I'm on the fence about whether to breed her again back to this same male because now I have so many new animals, I wanted to start to change the pairings so I can establish lines based on certain traits. She's so incredibly blue, I want to breed her to my bluest male and I now have one now who is a spectacularly blue color.
jajeanpierre
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Maybe 5.5 months give or take a bit.
bobcochran
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If none are fertile you'll know in 3-4 weeks, the egg container will start smelling a bit foul!
She really does have some nice blue. Where did you get her?
She really does have some nice blue. Where did you get her?
Fiona's Mom
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I hope they are fertile....keep us posted....Love to see all the little babies. 
jajeanpierre
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She is drop-dead gorgeous! I might have other graciliors in these two new imports that have her color, but it isn't a common color. I was debating using my very blue YingLong on her but I have lots of babies from him and none from the male I ended up breeding her to. By the time I decided, I think she was late in her cycle so I am a little worried there won't be any fertile eggs.
I bought her from a breeder in California who lost the male he had acquired to breed to her. She is from the December 2014 import. He did get a few breedings but she laid an infertile clutch two months later. Her color is just so outstanding that I want to breed her to a male of similar color.
The second picture is of the male I want to eventually pair this female up with. The picture really doesn't do him justice as he blanched as soon as I tried to get a picture of him. He was imported May 5th. He seems to have the same overall aqua blue color she has. It takes a long time for their true colors to show after import but his blues showed up right away. Imports from this exporter look so awful for so long, and he came to me emaciated at import. I have others that are very blue, but this male just strikes me as being the same overall blue color as the female. He's got a lot of things going for him--it looks like he is starting to get his third set of horns, he has a really high dorsal crest (it might not look quite so high once he gains some much needed weight), a very tall sail fin, but most important he is a really beautiful overall blue color. Look at how blue the scales on his body are. He also has an interesting red color to his sides. He's very young and not doing as well as I would like. He's basically the same weight that he came in at--less than 23g, but he is starting to gain some of the weight he lost. He's been really worrying me; he is one of two or three that I am not happy about. I think he is starting to improve--he just looks better and is eating on his own again, but I am really worried about him still.
I'll probably breed her back to the male I bred her to and then let her use up all his sperm and hope and pray I get some babies from her and that I still have her to breed to the young import. He'll be all grown up by then and in good health, which he's not now.
For those who are unfamiliar with how awful wild caught imports can look like, I've included a picture of the beautiful female pictured below soon after import. Who would have guessed, looking at her then, how beautiful she is.
guanagator
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Awesome looking blues on her, hope the little guy can put on some weight for you.
jajeanpierre
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I was sent the last picture by the person I bought her from and didn't even look at the picture--it was just a picture of a miscellaneous beat up green chameleon. I wanted people who have never worked with wild caughts to see how they change from a really ugly mucky-colored animal to something very beautiful once they get healthy. I should have looked a little more closely and realized it isn't the female gracilior at all, in fact, it isn't even a gracilior!
Thank you Kevin Stanford for pointing it out to me. Below is a picture of that beautiful aqua blue female above around import. And, yes, I checked the photo and it has her markings!
jajeanpierre
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I'm just trying to make him live right now. Wild caughts are such a roller coaster. Two steps forward one step back. Sometimes it is one step forward and two steps back!
jajeanpierre
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I wish you could see how beautiful blue Eric, the male pictured above, is. He blanches yellow when I try to get a picture of it, but if I can get him to live he will be really beautiful. Plus I think he is growing his third set of horns and he's quite young.
