FINALLY got some good pictures of their eye problems

[Dan]

hey everyone,
So both my male and female panthers have been having an eye problem now for several months. i took them to a vet and was told it was a vitamin deficiency and I needed to gut load with more things like carrots and yams. I have been doing that for some time now, and have seen very little improvement. They both do not seem to be in any discomfort, and both are moving, eating and drinking normally. They just seems to keep one eye closed often. They open it when they eat or move around, but if they are relaxing they keep it closed. I dont see any fluid or puss or anything. I have been trying to get some good photos of their eyes and have been having trouble, but I think I finally got some good ones today. Any ideas what is wrong/ what I can do about it?

Thanks!!!













I couldnt get any with the females eye open, but if I get a good one ill post it.

Thanks again everyone!

 

[Dan]

1 more pic

here is one more pic I have of the females eye

 

[beenpanced]

What kind of UVB light do you use?

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

I am no vet but my personal feeling is that your female doesn't have a vitamin A deficiency. I say this because it looks like she had a good full clean shed. Vit A has a lot to do with cell reproduction and I personally have found that when chams are fed feeders high in A they shed more often and completely, when they don't have enough A they tend to have patchy more irregular sheds. I honestly feel that it is an eye infection and I would go with Fortaz. It isn't very harsh on the animal and it does wonders with infections.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.

Chris

 

[Dan]

The female has a reptisun 5.0 and the male has a reptisun 10.0

 

[PantherVeileD]

are they housed together? Might be a minor eye infection, how long has it been? Do they appear healthy but just eyes close.. both eyes or 1?

 

[Dan]

No they are not housed together...hence why they have different lights.

The female seems to be shedding well, but my male has been having irregular sheds like u mentioned. He shed the bottom half of his tail a few weeks ago, and he shed his spine area last week, but thats it. But if it is an infection, what is Fortaz and where can I get it?

 

[PantherVeileD]

I didn't read the light part.. you can try this. I've tried it for my veiled and it works for me.

http://www.amazon.com/Terramycin-Op...1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1226367916&sr=8-1

 

[Dan]

PantherVeiled, I think all your questions are answered in my previous posts

 

[Dan]

Is that ointment used for eye infections? Is there anyway I can know it is an infection forsure? If its not an infection and I use that stuff could it cause any harm to them?

 

[PantherVeileD]

yeah sorry dan i realize that.. I am watchig tv and browsing the forums. my fault. Well if its only 1 eye I would assume its an infection. This happened to my female veiled before.. She would have her right eye close for 3 weeks and then later the left was on and off. One of the forum member suggested it and I gave it a shot. Works like a charm! Its not harmful, just apply over the close eyes 2-3 times a day. Amazon will ship it out fast as well.

 

[Dan]

Even if this has been going on for several months and it hasnt gotten worse, do you still think it is an eye infection?

 

[PantherVeileD]

go to chatroom.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/index.php?page=chat

 

[Dan]

How does the chatroom thing work?

 

[PantherVeileD]

click on the link.. go to Let's chat.. put in your sn.. no need for pw.. and we can chat there.. other ppl on the forum is in there as well..

 

[jannb]

I am no vet but my personal feeling is that your female doesn't have a vitamin A deficiency. I say this because it looks like she had a good full clean shed. Vit A has a lot to do with cell reproduction and I personally have found that when chams are fed feeders high in A they shed more often and completely, when they don't have enough A they tend to have patchy more irregular sheds. I honestly feel that it is an eye infection and I would go with Fortaz. It isn't very harsh on the animal and it does wonders with infections.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.

Chris

Which feeders are high in Vitamin A?

 

[Screameleons]

Dan,

Since the two of them are having the same issues, I'd double check your supplementation routine. The photo of his eye open looks fairly clean. In my experience, an eye infection is often accompanied by discharge.

*When you look into their eye, do you see a somewhat of a perfect circle?
*Or do they look slightly oval.
*Are the pupils centered?
*Do you see any signs of stress near their eye? For instance, sometimes they will rub against the screen causing scratches.

As always, you should always consult your vet if you feel the issue is serious. PM me and I can offer you some DIY tips that might help.

Vince

 

[millionsofchameleons]

i may have missed a post, i didnt read all of them but you may try raising the humidity. ive found that it can help with eye problems. helps my eyes even.

 

[Dan]

I have a misting system that is on 3min for 3 times day, so I think the humidity should be at a good level

 

[Screameleons]

Sometimes, the misting systems can be an issue. In general, it's not a good idea to mist your chameleon's eyes. A 3 minute mist seems quite long, and it is very difficult to keep your enclosure dry with that.

If you find that your cage is constantly moist, that could very well be the problem. The bottom of your enclosure should dry out completely between mists. If it isn't, then you are over misting.

Reduce the misting duration to 30 seconds, and mist more frequently throughout the day. 30 seconds/5 times a day should be more than enough to get the foliage wet.

If you haven't already signed-up for our Free 5 Day Care Course, please do so now. We go over some common causes for eye problems. You can get the lessons on our home page at http://www.screameleons.com.

Vince.