Female panther chameleon not eating and upside down, need help please

[aubslemond]

You can add things to soil to make sure they don't get over watered. Gnats, fruitflies and root rot are all part of a plant that has too much water. I believe perlite or water crystals help with this. Try getting plants thta will do better in a constantly moist soil. A number are picky and want a dry period between waterings.
Only reason I'm suggesting this is because they will have positive benefits for your chameleon.

You could always DIY a breeding box. Use some corrugated plastic sheeting and glue it together. Just make it the appropriate size for your enclosure. Just make sure to clean it often so it doesn't become nasty. Also drainage holes on the bottom would help if you find it necessary. I know Dragon Strand made a laying bin at one time that acted as a stand for the cage. Don't know if Bill still makes them, but I have one and it's really nice.

I like that idea of the diy box I could do that, and I made a lot of changes with the plants and reporting w some rocks in the bottom and at the top and different soil that way they would drain better and not having any issues rn w them being too wet or gnats. If she potentially egg bound would it be best to place her in her egg bin with a towel over it so she has to be in there, or just leave it in there with sticks and let her go in if she wants to? I know the vet is the best option but it depends on how much that visit would be for my parents to be open with taking her:/

 

[aubslemond]

@aubslemond

I agree with kinyonga, she might still have eggs. She looks quite large, as I mentioned in the other thread.

If it were my cham I'd give her a proper lay bin and see if that helps over the next few days. Has she been searching her enclosure endlessly, trying to crawl out of the corners or digging in the bottom recently?

I would also get her to a vet also, but beware, handling her too much or moving her too much may make things worse so I would try the above suggestion first.

As far as your supplentation goes, make sure she has calcium with no d3 at every feeding, d3 twice a month and multivitamin twice a month.
Calcium is very important for chams, especially gravid females which you probably know.

I suggest also to get a t5 uvb bulb. D3 is very important for properly calcified eggs, too. Not sure if this has contributed to her possibly being egg bound. You mentioned the one you had went out which makes me wonder how old it is or if it was a bad bulb. Now she doesn't have one.

Your basking spot for her is way too hot. I would get a cooler bulb and shoot for somewhere close to 85 Fahrenheit.

How much water are you using during mistings? For how long?

I would also get more plants, preferably ones with more cover so she has places to hide. That being said, can we see a picture of your set up?

Here is her cage with the laying bin in it and what she looks like this morning. I do see a bump in front of her back legs it looks like, like she did when she had eggs but it hasn’t looked prominent till this morning. Her basking spot is also at 86 currently. The last two photos are what I mean with the leaning, it’s like she doesn’t have the strength to hold herself up and I’m worried she might even just fall. Considering making her stay in her egg bin but want to know if that’s the right choice or if it will stress her out being forced to be in there instead of letting her crawl out.

 

[salty dog]

You need a linear uv light, or she will die, she looks to be healthy for now, she also looks gravid, (carrying eggs need to be laid) you have to leave her alone where she can't see you to lay the eggs or she will die

 

[JacksJill]

Has anyone asked what supplements she's getting and if she has a UVB bulb? Sorry if I missed it. Low calcium/D3 levels could affect her muscle strength and control.

 

[aubslemond]

Has anyone asked what supplements she's getting and if she has a UVB bulb? Sorry if I missed it. Low calcium/D3 levels could affect her muscle strength and control.

After reading quite a few other threads I think it’s possible I’ve been giving her too much vitamins actually, and her bulb went out last week and realized yesterday the other one I put in was uva not uvb so I just fixed that this morning. I had been giving her food w calcium dusted on it every day feeding and multivitamin every other instead of calcium every other and multivitamin every month. It’s hard to find an exact formula of what to do since everyone has so many different opinions on what’s best. I accidentally made another thread and it has all the info of cage set up and feeding and such.

 

[JacksJill]

She can have calcium daily except when she gets the multi or D3 every two weeks. I know there are a lot of ways to do this. unless your lighting is T5 linear for UVB. I would recommend calcium daily, multi every 2 weeks and D3 every two weeks but not the same week as the multi. If she will let you get her outside and weather permits natural sunlight is the best way to bring her D3 levels up quickly and get more calcium absorbed into her system. Go lightly on all these supplements too much is as bad as too little.

 

[kinyonga]

Sorry to say...but if she's eggbound and you don't take her to the vet she will almost certainly die. A vet can take X-rays and tell you if she's full of eggs.

 

[aubslemond]

Sorry to say...but if she's eggbound and you don't take her to the vet she will almost certainly die. A vet can take X-rays and tell you if she's full of eggs.

Okay we have found a vet, my question is how long does it take for a female to become egg bound? Like if she’s given all thats needed and was supposed to lay eggs on a certain date and can’t, how long before it becomes fatal? Is there a point where it becomes too late even if the eggs are removed?

 

[kinyonga]

There's no set length of time to become eggbound.

Yes...it can become too late if you wait long enough that she has started to go down hill before you have her eggs removed.

Signs of decline...lethargy, sleeping during the day, sitting low in the cage.

 

[aubslemond]

There's no set length of time to become eggbound.

Yes...it can become too late if you wait long enough that she has started to go down hill before you have her eggs removed.

Signs of decline...lethargy, sleeping during the day, sitting low in the cage.

Well I’ve made the appointment to take her to the vet tomorrow so hopefully all goes well! ?

 

[kinyonga]

Good luck. I hope it's a good chameleon vet you will be seeing!