Extreme temperature tolerance (quarantine related)

I think they would survive at that temp for 30 days. 78 degrees isen't that hot. Most reptiles have to be adaptable to diff temps or they wouldn't survive in the wild. Many animals are forced to adapt to a particular enviornment in order to survive but that doesn't mean thats the ideal enviornment for them. I have tropical fish that people swear should be kept at 84 degrees that thrive in my room temperature tank. My cham made it through 2 days of high 30's F temperature when i lost power during a winter storm. Misting should help to keep them cool.
 
Hey Chris A. The guys on the other forum say they want scientific evidence that a constant temp of 26C will actualy do harm to the chameleons, I thought maybe you will have some info for me that I can quote off you since you are doing real studies on things like this
 
After reading the other forum, it sounds like people are a little worried about you stirring things up because the old quarantine rules were even worse (someone said something about lifetime quarantine for imports).

Can you "cheat" the system by keeping the room 28 but use misters to provide cool spots, explaining them away by saying the chams need constant access to water?

For that matter- can you cheat by measuring temp in one part of the room but provide cool areas in cages (say along a north facing concrete wall) where nobody measures temp?

edit- the panther chameleon attrition rate experienced by the other guy could be the result of where his panthers came from and time of year, not just the temp. I remember 15 years ago there were certain times of the year when it was a bad idea to buy imported panthers because they would be extremely weak and heavily parasitized. It may still be that way, or may still be that way with some exporters.
 
You can never drop the temperature that deep just with more water. A hole time wet enclosure is as worse as constante temperatures. It will cause Pseudomonas aeruginosa infections
 
I wasn't suggesting constant dampness in the whole enclosure- just cool spots- you could set up misters a couple of feet away from an enclosure and never mist directly into it and still lower the temperature in the enclosure. The cham doesn't have to sit constantly in the mist to be in an area where ambient temp is lowered from cooling effect of the mist.

Edit- I'm not saying it would work or even be a good idea either. I'm just trying to suggest that there may be some way to creatively bend the rules a little.
 
fluxlizard said:
I wasn't suggesting constant dampness in the whole enclosure- just cool spots- you could set up misters a couple of feet away from an enclosure and never mist directly into it and still lower the temperature in the enclosure. The cham doesn't have to sit constantly in the mist to be in an area where ambient temp is lowered from cooling effect of the mist.

Edit- I'm not saying it would work or even be a good idea either. I'm just trying to suggest that there may be some way to creatively bend the rules a little.
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That's true but I don't think that this will be ok, if the temperatures should be 26°C directly in the cage
 
the rule is actually 28 degrees (according to the guys on the other forum). 26 would be better for the chams he's interested in.

I agree- ideas like this would only work if the temp in the room is measured generally, not in each cage.

But even if it must be 28 in each cage- unless a fan or something is used in the room to keep the air circulated, the temp at the top of a 4' cage will be warmer than the bottom. What if 8' tall cages are used and temps are measured at the top near the lighting? Temps at the floor would be several degrees cooler potentially. Especially in a concrete block room...
 
I see what you mean Flux, but in order to keep the temperature low enough by misting then it probably will mean continuoly misting the cage, then there could be added humidity and maybe cause respiratory infection?

In the link I posted (the first one) it states 26degrees and not 28, I dont know where those guys got the idea of it being 28 when it states 26.
 
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