Enclosure ready for my new panther (Epic Chameleons) to come early next week

aimhigher38

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This is a 18x18x24 Exoterra that will be used to house my new baby panther that will be shipped for next Tuesday delivery from Epic Chameleons http://www.epicchameleons.com/index.html . I purchase one of the babies from Jetro .

I decided to give an Exo terra a try since I have a 24x24x48 Reptibreeze for my other panther and I wanted to compare the two enclosures when it came to maintaining humidity and heat. Ive read there are a lot of people that used Exo Terra to keep chameleons successfully and also said its great for keeping the humidity levels high.

What do u guys think of the set up? I do have a waterfall rock in there cuz the previous owner of the Exo terra threw it in but Im not planning on using it and just using the rock as a decoration. The front of the enclose may look a lil bare but the branches and the leaves stick out to the front of the tank. Im planning to put branches or grape vines in front in a couple days.

I do have a couple questions.... What wattage of a basking lamp should I use for a small cham and for a glass enclosure like this? I dont want to burn or cook the little guy so I got 50watts to start off with.

And Im used to attaching branches to mesh screens...how do u guys set up branches for glass enclosures? Do i just stick them diagonally from wall to wall?
 
Not so much useful info yet....so I will try to give some advice.

Using GLASS vivs is relative to your situation. Kinda like being a vegetarian...if you are East Indian you probably have B blood type and can't digest meats so well, however if you are European trying to be a vegetarian you are really just an idiot unless you have rarer genes than normal.

Same goes with glass vivs. Chams need airflow & humidity, in some areas this is difficult to maintain, some areas it's not. Reason this ties in with the vegetarian example is because if you are living in Southern India with high heat and high humidity, you aren't going to use glass, if you are living in Northern Germany with low humidity and winters...glass might be a better option for you.

You will notice online that a lot of people supporting glass vivs are Northern Europeans. What works for them isn't going to work for people living in SoCal or Palm Springs.

In Canada where I live, I totally support glass vivs.....I see you are in California so you might want to be a little more careful.

Definitely get rid of that waterfall feature as it will create too much humidity. Panthers really benefit from being super wet and humid for a very short time, and then being allowed to dry out slowly. That's why it's recommended we don't spray our enclosures until the liquid from the previous spraying has evaporated. This cycle creates adequate drinking opportunities and maintains a constant healthy low-to-high swing of humidity.

Depending on your temperatures right now, I would use a 40-50watt. With all of MY glass vivs I use a 40 watt for babies and a 50 watt for adults. Sometimes a 60 watt if they are in the main room which is up to 10-15F cooler than the reptile room.

My whole point is that things are relative. Don't try something because it's a fad. Would you wear a parka to Cancun because someone wore one to Copenhagen? Maintain the creature's perameters for healthy living conditions, and so long as you can do that, it doesn't matter if they are living in a screen viv, glass aquarium, or a submarine.
 
Zen Reptiles said:
Not so much useful info yet....so I will try to give some advice.

Using GLASS vivs is relative to your situation. Kinda like being a vegetarian...if you are East Indian you probably have B blood type and can't digest meats so well, however if you are European trying to be a vegetarian you are really just an idiot unless you have rarer genes than normal.

Same goes with glass vivs. Chams need airflow & humidity, in some areas this is difficult to maintain, some areas it's not. Reason this ties in with the vegetarian example is because if you are living in Southern India with high heat and high humidity, you aren't going to use glass, if you are living in Northern Germany with low humidity and winters...glass might be a better option for you.

You will notice online that a lot of people supporting glass vivs are Northern Europeans. What works for them isn't going to work for people living in SoCal or Palm Springs.

In Canada where I live, I totally support glass vivs.....I see you are in California so you might want to be a little more careful.

Definitely get rid of that waterfall feature as it will create too much humidity. Panthers really benefit from being super wet and humid for a very short time, and then being allowed to dry out slowly. That's why it's recommended we don't spray our enclosures until the liquid from the previous spraying has evaporated. This cycle creates adequate drinking opportunities and maintains a constant healthy low-to-high swing of humidity.

Depending on your temperatures right now, I would use a 40-50watt. With all of MY glass vivs I use a 40 watt for babies and a 50 watt for adults. Sometimes a 60 watt if they are in the main room which is up to 10-15F cooler than the reptile room.

My whole point is that things are relative. Don't try something because it's a fad. Would you wear a parka to Cancun because someone wore one to Copenhagen? Maintain the creature's perameters for healthy living conditions, and so long as you can do that, it doesn't matter if they are living in a screen viv, glass aquarium, or a submarine.
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haha best comment yet!! Now I want a submarine habitat!! :p
 
Zen Reptiles said:
Not so much useful info yet....so I will try to give some advice.

Using GLASS vivs is relative to your situation. Kinda like being a vegetarian...if you are East Indian you probably have B blood type and can't digest meats so well, however if you are European trying to be a vegetarian you are really just an idiot unless you have rarer genes than normal.
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You just called me an idiot. Being vegetarian isn't just about providing what's best for your body, but what "suits" your mind. Killing animals doesn't suit mine.

To the Op: I use 40 Watt for my exo terra where I keep a panther, but you have to check if it works for you. It depends on what is your room temp. I would add the branches and it will be perfect ;)
 
imcurt said:
Use a 25watt appliance bulb for your basking bulb. Those glass exo's can get hot!
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Right U R :)
Anything more then 25W will turn it into a little convection oven! :eek:
I'm sure U dont want a cooked cham :rolleyes: ;)

I have one of those 4 my Mex Red Knee tarantula (Kiwi).
The size is really over-kill 4 a T, but looks nice :D

I mounted a UltraTherm (Bean Farm) UTH to it so Kiwi can think she's in Mexico all
winter long :)
 
Zen Reptiles said:
Not so much useful info yet....so I will try to give some advice.

Using GLASS vivs is relative to your situation. Kinda like being a vegetarian...if you are East Indian you probably have B blood type and can't digest meats so well, however if you are European trying to be a vegetarian you are really just an idiot unless you have rarer genes than normal.

Same goes with glass vivs. Chams need airflow & humidity, in some areas this is difficult to maintain, some areas it's not. Reason this ties in with the vegetarian example is because if you are living in Southern India with high heat and high humidity, you aren't going to use glass, if you are living in Northern Germany with low humidity and winters...glass might be a better option for you.

You will notice online that a lot of people supporting glass vivs are Northern Europeans. What works for them isn't going to work for people living in SoCal or Palm Springs.

In Canada where I live, I totally support glass vivs.....I see you are in California so you might want to be a little more careful.

Definitely get rid of that waterfall feature as it will create too much humidity. Panthers really benefit from being super wet and humid for a very short time, and then being allowed to dry out slowly. That's why it's recommended we don't spray our enclosures until the liquid from the previous spraying has evaporated. This cycle creates adequate drinking opportunities and maintains a constant healthy low-to-high swing of humidity.

Depending on your temperatures right now, I would use a 40-50watt. With all of MY glass vivs I use a 40 watt for babies and a 50 watt for adults. Sometimes a 60 watt if they are in the main room which is up to 10-15F cooler than the reptile room.

My whole point is that things are relative. Don't try something because it's a fad. Would you wear a parka to Cancun because someone wore one to Copenhagen? Maintain the creature's perameters for healthy living conditions, and so long as you can do that, it doesn't matter if they are living in a screen viv, glass aquarium, or a submarine.
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Thank you for input I will take all into consideration.... I will use a heat probe to measure the temperature.
 
What temperature should the basking area be for the baby cham? What is the temperature inside the enclosure.... Right now the basking area is 79 degrees and the temp. inside near the bottom is 77 degrees. My lamps have been on for an hour or so already.
 
aimhigher38 said:
What temperature should the basking area be for the baby cham? What is the temperature inside the enclosure.... Right now the basking area is 79 degrees and the temp. inside near the bottom is 77 degrees. My lamps have been on for an hour or so already.
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I'm not an expert, but if you're getting a 3 months old it should be ok :)
 
My guy is from Epic :) He is Vanessa's baby's big brother, they hatched 7/13 (my bday hehehe) :D

Their temperment is awesome!:D

Congrats!!!!!
 
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