Edema on baby panther :(

[andresaveiro]

I have a baby panther cham that I bought from Screameleons, he is 4 months old. I have noticed that his neck is starting to get a little swollen, but not very noticeable. I think this might be an Edema.

I was reading that over supplementing with D3 might be one of the causes. I'm currently using this method, from Screameleons.

FOR JUVENILES KEPT INDOORS

Rep-Cal Calcium w/ D3 every other day
Herptivite dust crickets twice a week...

I think it might be a lot of D3 for the baby, but I don't know. Also he was getting a little dehydrated but i fixed right away and his urine is starting to look better.

Any recommendations? I'm freaking out.

 

[Dean Pulcini]

Stop supplementation and increase water intake and if he gets better don't over supplement as stated above.

 

[andresaveiro]

Yes i'm so stupid, most of the times I was dusting the crickets were all caked, I will stop supplementing and increase the water intake.

 

[andresaveiro]

Any more advices? I'm working on the pictures. The swell is not huge.

 

[ChromaChameleons]

Repcal calcium with D3 has a ton of D3 compared to Zoomed calcium with D3. If you want to continue using the RepCal, use it less frequently and use the calcium without D3 in its place a couple times a week. At 4 months , you could also reduce the herptivite by half.

But for the short term, stop any supplementation for 5 days.

 

[Corpsman82]

ive seen alot of breeders say the same thing with the supplements. anyone know why? they obvisouly know how to care for chameleons. specially screameleons they have some awsome chameleons!

i dust lightly, and what i mean by that is i get all the crickets on one side of the cup then i pinch a bit of the supplement then "sprinkle" it over them.


heres is how i do my supplements

ist week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= cal with D3

2nd week of the month

mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= Herpivite

3rd week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= cal with D3

4th week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= Herpivite

 

[andresaveiro]

Here's the only pic i could take without him freaking out, can you guys see it? It is little but noticeable.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Yes i'm so stupid, most of the times I was dusting the crickets were all caked, I will stop supplementing and increase the water intake.

Its a common mistake to coat the insects too heavily. Looks like you've already corrected that. Your solution to use less supplement and increase water seems a good plan to me.
Consider also adding juciey feeders like silkworms, cabbage loppers and hornworms, for a boost of hydration.

 

[andresaveiro]

Thank you, you guys are great!

 

[tkilgour]

ive seen alot of breeders say the same thing with the supplements. anyone know why? they obvisouly know how to care for chameleons. specially screameleons they have some awsome chameleons!

i dust lightly, and what i mean by that is i get all the crickets on one side of the cup then i pinch a bit of the supplement then "sprinkle" it over them.


heres is how i do my supplements

ist week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= cal with D3

2nd week of the month

mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= Herpivite

3rd week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= cal with D3

4th week of the month
mon-fr =cal without D3
sat = nothing
sun= Herpivite

I have asked Vincent at Screameleons this many of times. Just last week I asked him about it again. The info. seems to vary every where and there isn't one way of doing it. He said he rarely ever sees a D3 overdose when used correctly and he swears by both Repcal phos. free w/ Vit. D and herptivite. His chameleons are amazing and he is very educated in panther chameleons. The trick is however, to lightly dust the feeders and you should have no problems. I was doing it just as Vincent recommended and have never had a health issue. However, because of all the overdose concerns I have changed my supplement schedule almost identical to corpsman. Good luck I hope the bulge goes down! Sounds like Vincent already told you not to make the feeders look like ghosts after you put the supplements on them.

 

[andresaveiro]

Haha yes he used those exact words. I'm going to change my schedule like that too, any recommendations in what type of calcium powder to get?