Don't know what to do....

[Chamfan123]

hi guys,

I own a 10 month old veiled and am thinking of moving him into the PT-2612 by exo-terra (put it into google and it should come up) i was wondering if this would be big enough as his last home. I really want to put him in a much bigger flexarium but the guys at the pet shop said and I quote "A flexarium would be fine as long as your house stays around mid 70's-80's." I just dont know what to do anymore....

 

[Julirs]

Go back and tell those guys they are idiots. Please.
That Exoterra is in no way big enough for a male Veiled. They need at least a 24x24x48 screen cage as adults. Where do you live? Even in colder climates for the winter you can take a screen cage or Flexarium, cover a few sides with plastic, and with lighting you can keep it warm enough. Veileds are OK with a temp drop to 60 degrees at night.

 

[Julirs]

I was looking back at your old threads and I have 2 questions-what size "tank" is he in now and what are the temps-he seems terribly old for a screen top set-up???

 

[Chamfan123]

I was looking back at your old threads and I have 2 questions-what size "tank" is he in now and what are the temps-he seems terribly old for a screen top set-up???

at the moment he is in a 45cm square. he isn't that big, his body is probably about 6" long

 

[Julirs]

Temps? Temps? Temps?

 

[Chamfan123]

Temps? Temps? Temps?

low 90's at basking and low 80's at other end with reptisun 5.0 on top

 

[Julirs]

Wow-17"X17"? and how tall?-your chameleon really needs a bigger taller cage. All glass is just wrong, and his cool spot needs to be in the 70's-something that is not going to happen in that small a cage.

 

[BocaJan]

Mine is in a 24x24x48 cage. I wouldn't put a male into anything smaller.

 

[Chameleonboy]

I also do suggest for you to get a 24x24x48 cage or make one. It is a fun project if you have the time and money.

 

[nick barta]

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Chamfan,

Don't worry about the temperature of your house, the veiled chameleons' Yemen habitat is desert with tremendous drops in temperature at night. Your veiled will be happier than you will be at lower temps!
If you are U.S. based you might want to consider screen enclosures, ReptileDepot.com and lllreptile.com have low prices on the 24x24x48. Dont be discouraged about the conflicting information you get about Chams, part of the challenge is discovering what works with these amazing creatures. The pet shop is the worst place to solicit information, the ignorance of the people who work there will lead you down paths you don't want to go!

CHEERS!!!
Nick Barta
Puyallup, Washington

 

[ReikoChameleon]

personally i think having flexariums to be a permanent house is not good not enough ventilation and many other reasons... they are ok for babies if they will be moved in a matter of time but not for a home....some pet store guys will just get you to buy stuff cause they could care less about the animal they want the $$$$ so always be carefull.. good luck

 

[Chamfan123]

personally i think having flexariums to be a permanent house is not good not enough ventilation and many other reasons... they are ok for babies if they will be moved in a matter of time but not for a home....some pet store guys will just get you to buy stuff cause they could care less about the animal they want the $$$$ so always be carefull.. good luck

You mean terraium, right?

 

[BocaJan]

You mean terraium, right?

That is not what she means. Go back to her original post and there is a link. Click it and you will see what she is referring to.

 

[Julirs]

I still stand by Reptariums/Fleariums making more than adequate homes. They hold the humidity a little better than the screen cages, and are a bit better for shyer animals providing them more cover. For a male adult Veiled or Panther-I go screen all the way-the like to see out!

 

[Grizz]

i agree with julirs, screen is very versitile. holds heat,humidity and most importantly escapees(insects). i just switched to screen from metal mesh i think it is better for Chams. p.s. i live in US in somewhat cold area, they hold in heat soo much better.

 

[Chamfan123]

I have come up with a solution!

as he's going to be in a room with medium traffic (eventually) I am going to put him in a 3f tall wooden viv (don't go crazy or anything) and probably add plenty of ventilation.

 

[Julirs]

With wood and water think mold. Even when sealed properly the amount of water you use will cause issues. For some reason I see you building a wooden box and drilling holes in it!

 

[Grizz]

unless you have advanced carpentry skills i would stay away from wood. the process to totaly water proof wood takes about a month an a half. If you do it wrong theres the mold thing but also it may splinter. after the process you also have to gas it out for a week or two.