disposing of old UV bulbs

[summoner12]

I guess Jo lives off the land to minimize his carbon footprint.

The rest of us do what we can and that includes not tossing our cfl and tubes in the trash.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Sad attitude?
Hey now, Im betting you and others who seem to have a 'holier-than-thou' response to my honesty, all drive cars no? I dont! How about the harm YOU are causing?

Its not a holier than thou reponse, Jo. It is a comment on how I feel about you saying you dont bothering to recycle your light tubes, as if its not a big deal that you dont, when really it IS a big deal.

I am not perfect, never said I was. But No, I do not drive a car. I walk, ride an electric bike, and take mass transit. When it comes time, I will take my bike tires to a recycling facility. I already recycle batteries. My house is heated (on a timer so that it is only heated when I am home and awake) with electricity, which where I live is mostly hydro-electric and thus relatively clean. I am saving up towards a heat-pump, and have already contracted to have solar hot water system installed. I reuse or recylce everything possible. I compost and grow much of my own food. In short, I do what I can.

But this thread is about reminding people to recycle their light tubes and CFLs. Something we should all support.

Recylcing is something most anyone can do, you say it is the law (good!) where you live, yet you say do not recylce your light tubes. How does this make sense to you? How can you say that you are leaving nature as it is? NONE of us are doing that, least of all you.

 

[jojackson]

Recylcing is something most anyone can do, you say it is the law (good!) where you live, yet you say do not recylce your light tubes. How does this make sense to you?

The law here does NOT allow for disposal of tubes except via general rubbish landfill collection. (for private households) Is that clearer. AKA If I put my tubes in our recycling bin, I get a fine. Did you actually read my post? All of it, or just what caught your eye?

How can you say that you are leaving nature as it is? NONE of us are doing that, least of all you.

'Least of all' me? Right Im the enviromental satan now? That was a response to Kevins 'camping' comment.

Like I said, send me your address...Ill send you my tubes, otherwise keep your judgements (feelings) to yourself.

In short, I do what I can.

So do I.

I guess Jo lives off the land to minimize his carbon footprint.

I guess Kevin is such a well spoken intellectual boy that he dosent need to resort to cheap sarcasm.
Maybe you can recycle that at home depot too Kevin.

 

[sandrachameleon]

The law here does NOT allow for disposal of tubes except via general rubbish landfill collection.

That's sad. I hope that your country soon changes such that recycling of tubes is possible. In the meantime, yes you are able to send them in the mail to recycling centres. If you really want some addresses, do a web search or pm me and I will do it for you.

Those of us living in North American or most of Europe luckily have better options!

Edit: just emailed with a friend in Australia, and there are places there to recylce CFLs and Tubes, including SITA, CMA and Chemsal. Jo this is probably good news for you, if I've recalled your location correctly? let me know by PM I can send you the addresses of these companies.
http://www.environment.gov.au/settlements/waste/lamp-mercury.html

 

[summoner12]

Yikes!

I guess Kevin is such a well spoken intellectual boy that he dosent need to resort to cheap sarcasm.

Such a grumpy man

Maybe you can recycle that at home depot too Kevin.

I was just there and they do take batties for recycling... but I didn't see a bin for sarcasm

 

[jojackson]

Thankyou Sandra, SITA is the company I spoke of before...

I took the libert of calling these folk and asking why they only offer commercial and industrial service but not for private consumers via local council pickup. The reply was simply, 'we dont do that, no'. A busness can register and pay $165 per box (approx 100 4ft tubes) and they will be collected, but tough cheese for private households apparently.
http://www.sita.com.au/our-services/...recycling.aspx

But I will check out the other two.

 

[summoner12]

Jo, Maybe you can start a neighborhood Haz-Mat awareness group and collect lamps locally from people? They can pitch in a few dollars for their contribution of lamps to cover the cost of that $165 recycling box?

 

[jojackson]

Thats for commercial busness only Kevin, Aka, registered companys and industral, office buildings and so on.
Ill see what Sandra's other two companys have to offer.

 

[withlime]

I'm sad to see such a positive thread resort to personal attacks on one-another.

So far we store our old UVB bulbs until I bring them all into work and put them in the fluorescent lightbulb recycling bins.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Thats for commercial busness only Kevin, Aka, registered companys and industral, office buildings and so on.
Ill see what Sandra's other two companys have to offer.

Hope one of them is useful to you. I'll ask Angie how she gets hers taken - maybe its through her company. I wonder if a local pet store, or a lighting store, as a registered business that sells the tubes, could be persuaded to act as a conduit for recycling?

Im glad this thread remains positive.

 

[SpinyFranky]

Sorry If I do not sound like a super de duper do gooder,

however this whole "global warming" is bull and a scam.

naturally when it was "exposed" to be a real problem and people started to care was with the whole Ice Sheets melting and the poor polar bears. However... that was found to be fraudulent when a second study revealed that the Ice Sheets indeed shrink drastically in summer and expand in winter. The first study was reportedly done during the summer and published during that same summer.

"oh noes the carbon dioxide is warming the planet!!!!!!!! man is evil!!!!"
Firstly, yes man is evil. We are animals, but we are the only ones that actively destroy our environment.

However a intelligent person should do research before believing the media/ mega corp policy/news. Plants naturally recycle carbon dioxide, and in turn release oxygen. Even the ocean actively buries carbon dioxide. So unless you mean to say that we are literally flooding the atmosphere with carbon dioxide.. I seriously doubt we are "killing" our planet. Unless we start killing off all the trees or blocking tidal movements I doubt we will have a dying planet anytime soon.

I do believe though, that we are destroying our environment be depleting resources. Fossil fuels, minerals, deforestation, water pollution, yes these are problems. However no, they are not actively killing the planet, just its denizens.

This is all just one, big, money scheme. Using the threat of a dying world as an excuse to charge you for burning firewood, for raising gas prices, to limit the amount of water you may use. An excuse to charge a "recycling fee" for glass and plastic bottles during purchase. A new way to market homes,cars, even cities and states.

Its a false and deliberately forced upon us. That the problems facing the planet are "our fault" and that we ( the we being the consumer ) should be forced to pay ( through our wallets of course ) for it.

The fact that Bush approved the construction of 8 (eight) new Nuclear Power plants to be constructed goes through just fine. However I am now charged a 5c "environmental fee" for using a plastic bag at the grocery store.

Don't even get me started on the self acclaimed prophet failbama. Newly proposed legislation that would allow for the government to legally inspect your home for "environmentally irresponsible" practices. These Include : broken windows, dated appliances, dated vehicles, woodburning fireplace, old wiring, non energy star fridges, laptops, airconditioning/ heating.

heres the catch. Under this legislation : You can be charged a fine up to 2,000 dollars for not meeting federal standards. Failure to fix the "problems" can result in further fines, even jail time if the legislation is passed as currently written.

By the way, these inspections are at random and you are charged by the government for the inspection itself.

So please, do not complain because I do not recycle my house hold bulbs. You are just furthering this evil scam to put blame and financial responsibility on a victimized consumer. Blame the manufacturer.

EDIT:
for your consideration.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14982-typhoons-bury-vast-amounts-of-carbon-dioxide-at-sea.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2403530/posts
http://www.volusia.org/environmental/

 

[summoner12]

Sorry If I do not sound like a super de duper do gooder,

however this whole "global warming" is bull and a scam.

naturally when it was "exposed" to be a real problem and people started to care was with the whole Ice Sheets melting and the poor polar bears. However... that was found to be fraudulent when a second study revealed that the Ice Sheets indeed shrink drastically in summer and expand in winter. The first study was reportedly done during the summer and published during that same summer.

"oh noes the carbon dioxide is warming the planet!!!!!!!! man is evil!!!!"
Firstly, yes man is evil. We are animals, but we are the only ones that actively destroy our environment.

However a intelligent person should do research before believing the media/ mega corp policy/news. Plants naturally recycle carbon dioxide, and in turn release oxygen. Even the ocean actively buries carbon dioxide. So unless you mean to say that we are literally flooding the atmosphere with carbon dioxide.. I seriously doubt we are "killing" our planet. Unless we start killing off all the trees or blocking tidal movements I doubt we will have a dying planet anytime soon.

I do believe though, that we are destroying our environment be depleting resources. Fossil fuels, minerals, deforestation, water pollution, yes these are problems. However no, they are not actively killing the planet, just its denizens.

This is all just one, big, money scheme. Using the threat of a dying world as an excuse to charge you for burning firewood, for raising gas prices, to limit the amount of water you may use. An excuse to charge a "recycling fee" for glass and plastic bottles during purchase. A new way to market homes,cars, even cities and states.

Its a false and deliberately forced upon us. That the problems facing the planet are "our fault" and that we ( the we being the consumer ) should be forced to pay ( through our wallets of course ) for it.

The fact that Bush approved the construction of 8 (eight) new Nuclear Power plants to be constructed goes through just fine. However I am now charged a 5c "environmental fee" for using a plastic bag at the grocery store.

Don't even get me started on the self acclaimed prophet failbama. Newly proposed legislation that would allow for the government to legally inspect your home for "environmentally irresponsible" practices. These Include : broken windows, dated appliances, dated vehicles, woodburning fireplace, old wiring, non energy star fridges, laptops, airconditioning/ heating.

heres the catch. Under this legislation : You can be charged a fine up to 2,000 dollars for not meeting federal standards. Failure to fix the "problems" can result in further fines, even jail time if the legislation is passed as currently written.

By the way, these inspections are at random and you are charged by the government for the inspection itself.

So please, do not complain because I do not recycle my house hold bulbs. You are just furthering this evil scam to put blame and financial responsibility on a victimized consumer. Blame the manufacturer.

EDIT:
for your consideration.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14982-typhoons-bury-vast-amounts-of-carbon-dioxide-at-sea.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2403530/posts
http://www.volusia.org/environmental/

WOW. way to suck the thread back into a shit hole! This topic isn't for this forum or thread. It has been debated on other threads and this isn't the place.

Please take responsibility for your own actions. If you can't figure out throwing a haz-mat into the trash is bad, your just as stupid as the creator of said product.

 

[withlime]

Sorry If I do not sound like a super de duper do gooder,

however this whole "global warming" is bull and a scam.

this thread is about recycling poisonous mercury instead of putting it into a landfill so it can pollute our drinking water. please take your political agenda to a more appropriate place.

 

[withlime]

So please, do not complain because I do not recycle my house hold bulbs. You are just furthering this evil scam to put blame and financial responsibility on a victimized consumer. Blame the manufacturer.

EDIT:
for your consideration.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14982-typhoons-bury-vast-amounts-of-carbon-dioxide-at-sea.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2403530/posts
http://www.volusia.org/environmental/

for your consideration, please explore mercury poisoning

 

[summoner12]

for your consideration, please explore mercury poisoning

This was the forth link, I found some of the side effects to be pretty disturbing.

 

[WelshOneEmma]

Hope one of them is useful to you. I'll ask Angie how she gets hers taken - maybe its through her company. I wonder if a local pet store, or a lighting store, as a registered business that sells the tubes, could be persuaded to act as a conduit for recycling?

Im glad this thread remains positive.

This is what our local store that sells all the fish lights and UVB does. When we buy a new one, they take the old one and dispose of it for us. I presume it is done in an environmentally friendly way, but will check!

 

[jojackson]

I wonder if a local pet store, or a lighting store, as a registered business that sells the tubes, could be persuaded to act as a conduit for recycling?

Now theres a constructive and helpful idea! I have a major lighting store near me, I will speak to the owner. Thanks Sandra.

 

[jojackson]

Unless we start killing off all the trees or blocking tidal movements I doubt we will have a dying planet anytime soon.

Where have you been living? A remote cave?

I do believe though, that we are destroying our environment be depleting resources. Fossil fuels, minerals, deforestation, water pollution, yes these are problems. However no, they are not actively killing the planet, just its denizens

Whats the difference? While you wait in your cave the few thousand years it might take the planet, bereft of life, to repair itself,
what are going to eat when there are no 'denizens' and you cant grow anything, and theres no fresh water, or the air is barely
breathable ? If you kill off life, you kill off the planet.
Do you rent a place, trash it carelessly then complain and call it a scam when the landlord points out the deterioration and expects you to pay for it? Folk with your mentailty will go right on beleiving their own propaganda and desperately trying to convince others, until the evidence is overwhelmingly obvious to everyone, by which time its too late.

What will it take? Your city underwater? hollywood extreme weather, $200 for a chicken $50 for an apple or a bottle of clean water?
Just because the deception and personal adgenda's of those in power are obvious, this dosent negate the facts you are choosing to disbeleive. It dosent matter if you call it 'global warming' or anything else, fact is the natural ecosystem is badly out of whack and yes, its mostly due human population expansion and the tecknology that came with it.
Consumerism, moreover, consumerism without regard for consequence is an antiquated idea that thankfully is slowly changing.

 

[Syn]

Hey guys, we aren't the problem, the dogs are!

I use my old UVB bulbs on diurnals, just to try to use any extra juice they may have, and I have more ready to use after a while.
I will probably be posting a thread here later for free used UVB lights to anyone who wants to use them for diurnal daytime viewing purposes.

Here is the solution to your global warming! +1 if are the first person who can name the show.

 

[sandrachameleon]

...If you kill off life, you kill off the planet....

Couldnt agree with you more!

Syn that looks like Futurama to me