depression??

[greg nan]

i have a male giant spiny chameleon (furcifer verrucosus), and about three days ago i purchased a female for him to breed with, and ever since i got her, he seems really depressed... not moving much, not eating, or having any urge to drink, i put them together for a bit he tried to mate with her, but i guess she didnt want to, in the pet store she was caged with another male giant spiny, so she may already be pregnant, i dont know whats going on, maybe because im giving her a little more attention. i dont know, anything would help at this point... thanks alot.

 

[mcbdz]

Sorry your having trouble. Hopefully someone with breeding experience with chime in. I would make sure he can't see her at all. How long has this been going on?

 

[SaintJimmy]

Have you thought about the possibility that he might shed soon?

 

[nightanole]

If the male has never been around other males, or even females, he may not feel alpha enough. The female may not be ready to mate, in which case if the male sees her, he may be stressed/scared. Its best to let him see her from across the room, then move closer each day as long as he doesnt get stressed. Some will run from ready to breed females if they are a first time breeder.

Just because we pop you in the room with a super model, does not mean she wont just brow beat you into the corner, then eat all the pizza and leave none for you

 

[Carlton]

i have a male giant spiny chameleon (furcifer verrucosus), and about three days ago i purchased a female for him to breed with, and ever since i got her, he seems really depressed... not moving much, not eating, or having any urge to drink, i put them together for a bit he tried to mate with her, but i guess she didnt want to, in the pet store she was caged with another male giant spiny, so she may already be pregnant, i dont know whats going on, maybe because im giving her a little more attention. i dont know, anything would help at this point... thanks alot.

Also consider this is not a very "natural" time of year for them to be interested in mating. Where you live it's probably fairly cold even in the room, daylength is shorter, and all these things tend to slow down even a healthy cham in captivity regardless of your cage lighting and heating schedule.

Sounds like he is intimidated by the new "intruder". She may have told him off visually because she is already gravid...pretty good bet if she was recently imported, but even if she isn't you don't want to be stressing her so soon. She hasn't had time to establish anyway so pretty natural for her to refuse him. I'd leave them separated and out of view for a month or so. You should know if she's gravid by that time. No need to rush this anyway. Keep an eye on him to watch for any other signs of poor health, make sure he's getting good nutrition, proper supplements, correct and new lighting, and when you can try getting them out in full sunlight. Then try it again later.

 

[greg nan]

Also consider this is not a very "natural" time of year for them to be interested in mating. Where you live it's probably fairly cold even in the room, daylength is shorter, and all these things tend to slow down even a healthy cham in captivity regardless of your cage lighting and heating schedule.

Sounds like he is intimidated by the new "intruder". She may have told him off visually because she is already gravid...pretty good bet if she was recently imported, but even if she isn't you don't want to be stressing her so soon. She hasn't had time to establish anyway so pretty natural for her to refuse him. I'd leave them separated and out of view for a month or so. You should know if she's gravid by that time. No need to rush this anyway. Keep an eye on him to watch for any other signs of poor health, make sure he's getting good nutrition, proper supplements, correct and new lighting, and when you can try getting them out in full sunlight. Then try it again later.

i cannot afford a cage at the moment, due to some recent bills and what not, will i still be ok without the cage, he will go over to the other side of the room to go and see her, and she will do the same, he does seem a bit intimidated by her, even though she is alot smaller than him, he doesnt really want to eat or even drink. so ive been taking him in the shower with me in the mornings, with some bottled distilled water and making him drink. i cant move her to another room because i live in a small one bedroom apartment, ill take some pictures of my setup. its not cheesy i promise, there is tons of room for them to climb around

 

[greg nan]

If the male has never been around other males, or even females, he may not feel alpha enough. The female may not be ready to mate, in which case if the male sees her, he may be stressed/scared. Its best to let him see her from across the room, then move closer each day as long as he doesnt get stressed. Some will run from ready to breed females if they are a first time breeder.

Just because we pop you in the room with a super model, does not mean she wont just brow beat you into the corner, then eat all the pizza and leave none for you

good quote by the way, lol, but am i ok to leave them alone? im scared that my stevie is going to get stressed, and stop eating and drinking completely, and eventually die a stressful miserable death, after all the time effort research and money i put into the little bast*ard , i dont want that happening, thanks !!!!

 

[greg nan]

Sorry your having trouble. Hopefully someone with breeding experience with chime in. I would make sure he can't see her at all. How long has this been going on?

this has been going on for the past week, and its freaking me right out, i think he'll be fine but i just want to make sure

 

[greg nan]

Have you thought about the possibility that he might shed soon?

i dont know, he hasnt shed for a while, i havent normally witnessed him acting like this before a shed

 

[Lovereps]

Obviously, he isn't happy sharing his living space with her.
If you want him to be healthy, you're going to have to make a separate place for her to live.
Stress leads to illness sooner or later.