Picasso123
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This is day 2 of him sitting in the same spot.
Day 2 of sitting in the same spot all day??
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SSimsswiSS
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How long have you had him? Has his surrounds changed? Panthers will usually slow down if cold. Is he under the heat lamp? Or if ill, and have something going on internally. If no interest in food, and not moving, a trip to vet is advised to check for parasites. Is this all day? Or are you viewing at end of day? Age? Need details.
Picasso123
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I moved a branch that was it. It's also the branch he's been sitting on for 2 days. I haven't taken him out since I got him March 11th from Screameleons. He's very shy. He's in the area with the lamp and the temp says 85. I think he ate a cricket or 2 today.
Picasso123
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How do they get parasites if they're CB?
ataraxia
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i need more info.
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
Pictures are helpful
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
Pictures are helpful
Picasso123
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Panther Chameleon, 9mth in my care for 3.
Handling - Never he's to shy.
Feeding - I feed now when the crickets are gone which seems every other day. I feed the crickets romaine, carrots and oranges.
Supplements - Herpivite once a week. Rep-cal 2 times a week. But he isn't eat much now.
Watering - I mist him with a spray bottle for a minute or so 4 times a day. Sometimes he drinks not lately it seems though.
Fecal Description -
Never been tested for parasites.
Cage Info:
Cage Type / Lighting Using a Screameleons cage setup for juveniles.
Temperature - 85 during the day mid 70s at night. I have a temp probe i teh cage under his basking light.
Humidity - 50% it's summer it naturally humidity.
Plants - No
Placement - It's near a central air vent but not directly under it. He's on a table. He located in CT.
Current Problem - He just looks at me all day. He's been in the same EXACT spot below since Wednesday.
Pictures are helpful
These are from Wednesday.
Your Chameleon - Panther Chameleon, 9mth in my care for 3.
Handling - Never he's to shy.
Feeding - I feed now when the crickets are gone which seems every other day. I feed the crickets romaine, carrots and oranges.
Supplements - Herpivite once a week. Rep-cal 2 times a week. But he isn't eat much now.
Watering - I mist him with a spray bottle for a minute or so 4 times a day. Sometimes he drinks not lately it seems though.
Fecal Description -
Never been tested for parasites.
Cage Info:
Cage Type / Lighting Using a Screameleons cage setup for juveniles.
Temperature - 85 during the day mid 70s at night. I have a temp probe i teh cage under his basking light.
Humidity - 50% it's summer it naturally humidity.
Plants - No
Placement - It's near a central air vent but not directly under it. He's on a table. He located in CT.
Current Problem - He just looks at me all day. He's been in the same EXACT spot below since Wednesday.
Pictures are helpful
These are from Wednesday.
Picasso123
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Where do you see that?
Elizadolots
New Member
I don't see anything that suggests worms.
Are you really watching 24/7?
Mine both have "preferred spots" that they return to regularly. I only know that they aren't just sitting in the same spots because I make an effort to do surprise visits. If I just stayed in the room with them, I'm not sure how much they'd move around.
Are you really watching 24/7?
Mine both have "preferred spots" that they return to regularly. I only know that they aren't just sitting in the same spots because I make an effort to do surprise visits. If I just stayed in the room with them, I'm not sure how much they'd move around.
Picasso123
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I work from home and put him in my office. I usually am in there quite a bit during the day and not so much in the evening.
Picasso123
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I work from home and put him in my office. I usually am in there quite a bit during the day and not so much in the evening.
mbondy
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Chameleon Info:
Gorgeous cham...note the bold.
Your Chameleon - Panther Chameleon, 9mth in my care for 3.
Handling - Never he's to shy.
Feeding - I feed now when the crickets are gone which seems every other day. I feed the crickets romaine, carrots and oranges.
Supplements - Herpivite once a week. Rep-cal 2 times a week. But he isn't eat much now. You want to use a Calcium with no D3 or phosphorous at about every feeding, calcium with D3 twice a month and a multivitamin twice a month as well.
Watering - I mist him with a spray bottle for a minute or so 4 times a day. Sometimes he drinks not lately it seems though. Try a dripper as well, looks dehydrated based on droppings
Fecal Description -
Never been tested for parasites.
Cage Info:
Cage Type / Lighting Using a Screameleons cage setup for juveniles.
Temperature - 85 during the day mid 70s at night. I have a temp probe i teh cage under his basking light. So is basking 85? Your temps should preferably drop 10-15 degrees, so in the 60s at night
Humidity - 50% it's summer it naturally humidity. Should average a little higher, aim for 70%
Plants - No no plants??
Placement - It's near a central air vent but not directly under it. He's on a table. He located in CT.
Current Problem - He just looks at me all day. He's been in the same EXACT spot below since Wednesday.
Pictures are helpful
These are from Wednesday.
Note the bold.
Try to alter some changes in his care. Maybe move him somewhere you aren't constantly looking at him
If his droppings are consistently as you've shown and not pure black and white, take him into the shower for him to get hydrated. Put some live plants in there as well. Looks like he's just had a little shed? How long have you noticed these issues?Elizadolots
New Member
Consider blocking his view of you. Mine always "play statues" when they can see I'm in the room.
Thompson
Chameleon Enthusiast
I would also offer more food items rather than just crickets. Get him some silkies, hornworms, superworms, dubia roaches etc. Are all his vines that skinny? I'd get a few thick vines in his cage if so. What is your ambient temp? He mey be staying in that same place because your ambient temp is to warm therefore making the basking spot hot. Also he's not quite a juvy anymore! How big is his cage? Might need to get a bigger cage (I don't know how big the cages are for juvies that screameleons offer)
laurie
Retired Moderator
Just a couple of things, a 9 month panther is not a juvi any more. That cage may have been fine for when he was small but he needs a larger cage. At his age you might as well go for the 24x24x48. The cage you have isn't even 20" tall, he must feel squashed. You said no plants? No live plants or no plants? Do you just have vines with leaves in them? He needs live plants and lots of climbing perches.
The air conditioner vent may not blow directly on him but could still make him cold. If he is cold he won't want to eat, and will have no energy to want to move. You need to make sure he is able to thermoregulate. He can't possible do that in a small cage. He needs to be able to go from warm to cool within his cage as he feels the need.
The air conditioner vent may not blow directly on him but could still make him cold. If he is cold he won't want to eat, and will have no energy to want to move. You need to make sure he is able to thermoregulate. He can't possible do that in a small cage. He needs to be able to go from warm to cool within his cage as he feels the need.
Picasso123
New Member
So he's moved but it's unfortunately lower. Like almost on the floor lower.
He has a biovine and the end of it with the leaves in on the cage floor.
In the 2nd pic I notice what looks to me poop stuck in his vent?
Like almost on the floor lower.He has a biovine and the end of it with the leaves in on the cage floor.
In the 2nd pic I notice what looks to me poop stuck in his vent?
Elizadolots
New Member
That's possibly a sperm plug. They are scientifically designed to drive owners insane.
For some reason they will excrete saved sperm that has hardened....I suspect in the grand scheme of things, it relates to the fact that females can retain sperm from one mating to produce fertile eggs more than once.
I really think you need to give this animal some privacy.
For some reason they will excrete saved sperm that has hardened....I suspect in the grand scheme of things, it relates to the fact that females can retain sperm from one mating to produce fertile eggs more than once.
I really think you need to give this animal some privacy.
Thompson
Chameleon Enthusiast
Could he maybe be impacted? Have you ever seen him try and eat one of the fake leaves? I'd give him a shower, this sometimes helps them poop. Deffinitely get him a larger cage with live plants. Chams are not terrestrial animals, they are arboreal so having plants on the bottom of the cage will stress them out and is overall not good husbandry. I can't imagine how he is able to bask since everythings on the cage floor rather than having his vines and plants at the top.
He's beatiful though!! Wow!
He's beatiful though!! Wow!
You said you moved the branch that he is now sitting on. Is the spot where he's sitting the same part of the branch he sat on before you moved it?
The following things may or may not have anything to do with his behavior, but IMHO need attention anyway...
your gutload needs improvement....you can/should use a wide variety of greens (dandelions, kale, endive, collards, escarole, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet red pepper, sweet potato, zucchini, etc.).
A phos.-free calcium powder should be used at each feeding IMHO...and a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder twice a month...and a vitamin powder with a beta carotene (prOformed)source of vitamin A twice a month. This leaves it up to you as to how often or if you give it any prEformed vitamin A.
The poop and urates look okay to me.
Are his eyes open all day? What brand and type (spiral, compact, long linear tube) of UVB light are you using?
The following things may or may not have anything to do with his behavior, but IMHO need attention anyway...
your gutload needs improvement....you can/should use a wide variety of greens (dandelions, kale, endive, collards, escarole, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet red pepper, sweet potato, zucchini, etc.).
A phos.-free calcium powder should be used at each feeding IMHO...and a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder twice a month...and a vitamin powder with a beta carotene (prOformed)source of vitamin A twice a month. This leaves it up to you as to how often or if you give it any prEformed vitamin A.
The poop and urates look okay to me.
Are his eyes open all day? What brand and type (spiral, compact, long linear tube) of UVB light are you using?
