cross breeding panther types?

[wlcm2thejungle]

hey im looking a picking up a pair of panthers for breeding. the female is an ambilobe, and the male is an ambanja X ambilobe X nosy be. does anyone know if i will have a tougher time getting the cross to breed with the normal?

 

[ColorCham427]

no, its just not a good idea.

 

[wlcm2thejungle]

was the male a product of cross breeding the two types? or how do you get the crosses. the cross thing is new to me. i only have experience with normals

 

[Lancecham]

Yes, The male is a cross of three different panther chameleons. There would be no physical difficulties breeding the two. It would be the same as breeding the female to a pure bred male(as far as physical part of it.).
There are different views with mixing different breeds together. Some don't want people to breed different types(locales)panthers together as it will diminish the pure locales. Others feel as it is ok to do as it produces one of a kind colored chams.
If you do decide to get them and breed them, the babies are worth less than if you had pure locale panthers. If you decide to get them, try to find out the percntage of the different locales the male is. So if/when you breed them, you will know exactly what you have.
Lance

 

[DeFishy]

I do not know if it is harder or not, but I know that several chameleon breeders are attempting to cross breed and have had success so far. I have heard possibility of diseases, and other disabilities, but so far I have not heard any conclusive evidence in that respect.

 

[GooglezNvincent]

I do not know if it is harder or not, but I know that several chameleon breeders are attempting to cross breed and have had success so far. I have heard possibility of diseases, and other disabilities, but so far I have not heard any conclusive evidence in that respect.

Just look at it this way, dont breed unless ou read at least 2 books on it, been on a forum for at least 6 months and have owned at least 2 chams for at least a total of one year. Otherwise you will not know what to do and can cause alot of harm to the chameleons. Be responsible enough to realize when you arent educated enough to be able to take care of what could happen. And i say this with absolutly no offense, its what is best for the Chameleons. People nowadays dont think about the animals and the pain they put them through, all because they are looking to make a quick buck.

 

[blackbetty]

Read this: https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-would-sick-breed-21536/

A lot of information about cross breeding..

 

[wlcm2thejungle]

Just look at it this way, dont breed unless ou read at least 2 books on it, been on a forum for at least 6 months and have owned at least 2 chams for at least a total of one year. Otherwise you will not know what to do and can cause alot of harm to the chameleons. Be responsible enough to realize when you arent educated enough to be able to take care of what could happen. And i say this with absolutly no offense, its what is best for the Chameleons. People nowadays dont think about the animals and the pain they put them through, all because they are looking to make a quick buck.

i have owned over 15 chameleons within the last year. all have been perfect and healthy and i still own 6 and have bred panther ans veilds. i know what im doing and im not breeding to make a quick buck. im breeding beautiful animals that i feel should be shared with the world and have happy owners who care for their pet. im not going to running a "puppy mill" of sorts. I know the risks and know how to avoid them.

 

[Destiny]

I don't think it's such a good idea the baby chameleons could develop a disease or some sort of disablement

 

[BigR]

To address Desitiny's comment. All panther chameleons, ambilobe, ankaramy, nosy be, ambanja, or whatever it may be, all belong to the same species, Furcifer Pardalis. The only difference is the colouring that they will display. Think of it as the dozens of morphs availabe in leopard geckos. Many breeders advise against breeding locale crosses (NOT species crosses) merely as a way to keep lines pure, similar to thoroughbred horses or dogs. The gecko enthusiast in me would have little apprehension mixing locales, as long as you can keep proper records, outlining the exact mixes of all offspring, and that you care enough and respect anyone who would by from you and tell them the exact genetics.

Defects should only occur after generations of inbreeding, which I highly look down upon.