cocoons?

Jordanworks479

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Interesting. I would say doubtfully hornworms. They tend to pupate in dirt and their cocoon is hard and dark brown. Silkworms....maybe?
Yea I always have some cocoons on hand,I only say beacause it’s the only thing I can compare the look to and there are also two in one cocoon also waiting on silk eggs to hatch now haven’t had them in a month in a half now
 

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Jordanworks479

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That is very weird. Youre sure its a single larva and not a cluster of spider eggs right? sorry kinda hard for me to tell from the picture on this 10 year old computer screen.

I’m almost sure its not spider eggs it looks like something laid eggs in them and then wrap them up,although you saying spider eggs was enough for me to rip it out the viv and throw it in a jar for further observation. Here are mor pics
 

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cloverthechameleon

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hahaha theyre not spider eggs i can see clearly now, the pic on the right you can see its little legs towards the front of his body, very odd
 

Jordanworks479

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hahaha theyre not spider eggs i can see clearly now, the pic on the right you can see its little legs towards the front of his body, very odd
I’m so glad you can see that the little arms are what made think they are hornworms but I did not think they spun silk.Maybe it’s a super I have like 25 in the substrate.
 

ERKleRose

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It wouldn’t be a super, and butters can’t pupate because they’re treated before leaving Chile, and they’re too big to be BSFL, so my best guess is silkworms
Edit: it could be butters because those aren’t pupated and butters do spin silk
 

Jordanworks479

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It wouldn’t be a super, and butters can’t pupate because they’re treated before leaving Chile, and they’re too big to be BSFL, so my best guess is silkworms
Edit: it could be butters because those aren’t pupated and butters do spin silk
Wow that be insane if it’s silks,it’s been awhile since I fed him silks and it was in his old and enclosure with different plants.

I don’t feed waxworms, but maybe it could also be that?
Looking into that now also just found a darker cocoon on another one of my hibiscus and my suspicions are leaning toward god dang “saw fly larvae”
 

Thehippie

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well it cant be butters because Butterworms are irradiated before being shipped from Chile. This prevents the worms from pupating into a moth. while the door was open could there have been any moths that flew in, laid and flew out, check leaves for signs of caterpillars if not are there any gaps worms could have crawled through to make that sort of cocoon
 

Jordanworks479

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.....so I could not handle it anymore and I ripped it open It’s most definitely a hornworm the silk is super strong almost like woven cotton had to pry it off with some tweezer @Jesspete i think that may be the case this thing looks mummified but the silk is still super it would have to be a big one to lug two med hornworms to the bottom of a leaf
 

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