jacksonchamnew
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Wow, that is lots of information. How long do they live in the wild and how long should they live in captivity under the best conditions?
Climate of the homecountry of The Yemen Chameleon
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jamest0o0
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Gets hot there, an ambient of 80s is going to be more intense than a warm basking spot with room temp ambient. Means many days will likely be in the 90s with little rain where they live. Not saying to replicate this, but graphs of averages can be misleading... for example, our average is about 83-84, half our month is mid 90s though.
And what, a dry season is needed or they die young?
And what, a dry season is needed or they die young?
jacksonchamnew
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And we have the wild ones that have adapted to South Florida climate with the heat and humidity and I guess subtropical year round. Hallmark of an invasive species is that they can adapt. I am sorry but I don't have fogger and all these mister and light controls for mine but trying to provide it with best life.
PetNcs
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Based on mu statistics In captivity:
USA 3-5 years
EU 7-9 years
Maximum 16years
In the wild nowaadays 9konths due to peedation and habitat modifications
NashansCamos
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Wow this is what i'm looking for very detailed and helpful thank you very much
jacksonchamnew
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The Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean has been taken over by the invasive lionfish. This is a tropical IndoPacific species that had specific water, temperature and salinity requirements in it's native habitat and now can survive estuarine, deep sea and all sorts of coastal and shelf habitats. It had to adapt. It has the advantage of fast reproduction and chams don't.
PetNcs
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well, the wuestion is how big is rhe span from which the averages arecalculated
True they are able to be a bit flexible
But the variability is nit rhag hogh in Yemen as yiu say fornyiur homecountry (definitely 20-degrees as you declare (if I calculate what you say
by definition, cold leriod sikulated as meaningfuly mild dry and cold season prolongs the life span inevitably
PetNcs
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in biological terms
The dact rhey can survive even different conditions than in their homecountry is NOat xalled adaptation. The dew generation rhey are in FL can no real adaptation process find a place
PetNcs
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they did jot adapt
Rhey occuoy the free niches because the habitat changes arenin accordance with their tollerance span
Rhisnis again jo ezample of Adaptation per se, just invasion of a species that can live in such conditions
jacksonchamnew
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In the geologic record, did North America ever have chameleons? There seems to be a niche available for retractable bullet tongue feeders. We have nothing like it. We have the Carolina Anole and many others but no true chams.
Bigsky
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They are over a year old now, and are doing fine.
PetNcs
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No never
They do not belong in the nearctic region
PetNcs
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Sinling reproduction is a terrible practice
PetNcs
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IMHO the keepernis obliged to provide the required comditions so that the animal can thrive and perform all natural behaviors. Tjisnis also what rhe european law says.
Not doing so is considered animal torture and is pujishable by law.
IMHO if jot able to siulate the natural conditions, people should nit excuse bur abscond from keeping a species.
Itnis same asnif younwould want to keep a horse in the middle of rhendesert and saying, sorry, Inhave no geass to feed it...
