Forgive me for not searching a lot, I just don't have time now, bit of an emergency.I am at a friends house, we both recently bought chameleons. to the point...His outslast's cham is not doing well, its very very weak. I don't believe it's from husbandry, because he told me it was semi-attacked by a hawk while he had it sunning outside today. The hawk swooped down, but only impacted the cham, knocked him for a serious loop to the ground. ( he was absolutely fine until this happened) The birdt hit him so hard, or the ground?? that when my friend ran and grabbed him, it had a WORM hanging out of its butt-vent. He removed this worm, which was HUGE (outslast's cham is quite large also) He checked for visible damage, only has a very tiny small scrape on head & elbow, all limbs work, no visible broken bones or bleading wounds ...and returned the cham to its enclosure. Since, it has ALMOST fallen of it's branch a few time, and seems to be geting weaker and weaker. Breaths are very very very long between, and very exagerated with a puuuuuuf sound!.....he still tries to grasp at the branches, barely, but he is soooo weak, he has slipped to hang underneath a few times, Since getting here I've already had to help him upright twice, he falls over, and half hangs on with 2 arms, and gives up on trying to get back up without help. I'm going to haul butt to the 24 hr store and try to buy some pedialyte, when I get back, I will check here for any advice or links to other threads with some good first aid, in hopefully getting him just to take breaths more often, & not want to "give up" cause thats what it seems... I know you'll all ask for a description of husbandry, I'll say its good, tube light, heat lamp, ect, it all looks absolutely awesome, he really broke the bank on the set-up. (more details when i return and begin first aid -all i know is pedialyte soak 50-50) be back in about 30 mins or less i hope. please help, please advise.... I'm OUTA HEARE!! HOPE NO COPS, CUASE THIS will be a speed record... brb & ty PLZ help me save this cham, it's 8 hours till any vet is open.
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Ok, I'm back, and cham is soaking in 1/2 inch of 50/50 solution of not cold but not hot or too warm RO pure water/ Flavorless pedialyte. When I returned to see him in cage, I saw him taking one of those exagerated breaths, but he had not falled /slid sideways of his branch, & seemed to have regained 5% more grip strenght, he had enough strength to make one feeble attempt to walk out of the soak, but when I helped him get nowhere, he gave up fast, and relaxed sitting in the solution. Been there 5 mins or so, and already seem to notice some color returning, not much, but he was all white before, now I am barely make out some white patches, which means he is darkening just a tiny bit. Eyes remain closed.
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Was a happy cham until this trauma, so doubt husbandry is playing a role
Husbandry:6ft wide x 2 ft deep x 5ft tall - all pet screen - custom
4ft HO t5 ubv ( have UBV meter also)
150watt red heat lamp - basking branch @ 98-100f
160watt merc-vap heat/ubv to create an additional basking spot @ 92f ( keeping correct distance from bulb )
custom fogger set at 55-60% on heat hum controller
100 watt day-blue bulb on heat-hum controler set on 80F / attemps a substantial drop at night, but only drops to 72-75 at coldest
ambient temps and several branched to offer any gradient of heat or ubv
auto-misting system, 1/2 gallon drippers x 2 & 36in drip vine with hand carved tiny indentions in 2 branches meant to catch some water (and he mists by hand sometimes, says cham will also drink from a cat nipple bottle when offered? And even shoot fruit/veg if held by the tongs, and happily devour whatever he is offered in the tongs LMAO!)
ficus, umbreall, pothos
Arcadia t5 plant pro, 6.5k (4ft)
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Ok, I'm back, and cham is soaking in 1/2 inch of 50/50 solution of not cold but not hot or too warm RO pure water/ Flavorless pedialyte. When I returned to see him in cage, I saw him taking one of those exagerated breaths, but he had not falled /slid sideways of his branch, & seemed to have regained 5% more grip strenght, he had enough strength to make one feeble attempt to walk out of the soak, but when I helped him get nowhere, he gave up fast, and relaxed sitting in the solution. Been there 5 mins or so, and already seem to notice some color returning, not much, but he was all white before, now I am barely make out some white patches, which means he is darkening just a tiny bit. Eyes remain closed.
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Was a happy cham until this trauma, so doubt husbandry is playing a role
Husbandry:6ft wide x 2 ft deep x 5ft tall - all pet screen - custom
4ft HO t5 ubv ( have UBV meter also)
150watt red heat lamp - basking branch @ 98-100f
160watt merc-vap heat/ubv to create an additional basking spot @ 92f ( keeping correct distance from bulb )
custom fogger set at 55-60% on heat hum controller
100 watt day-blue bulb on heat-hum controler set on 80F / attemps a substantial drop at night, but only drops to 72-75 at coldest
ambient temps and several branched to offer any gradient of heat or ubv
auto-misting system, 1/2 gallon drippers x 2 & 36in drip vine with hand carved tiny indentions in 2 branches meant to catch some water (and he mists by hand sometimes, says cham will also drink from a cat nipple bottle when offered? And even shoot fruit/veg if held by the tongs, and happily devour whatever he is offered in the tongs LMAO!)
ficus, umbreall, pothos
Arcadia t5 plant pro, 6.5k (4ft)
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