Cham Dying?
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THECHAMMAN
Established Member
MBD maybe. bring her to a vet asap,
heres a site to help find a vet locally.
www.herpvetconnection.com
if im wrong its something like that.
I hope shes ok.
heres a site to help find a vet locally.
www.herpvetconnection.com
if im wrong its something like that.
I hope shes ok.
THECHAMMAN
Established Member
Mbd. Get a vet.!
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Yes her leg doesnt look right. A trip to the vet seems to be in order. Do you have a good vet? If not, maybe you can find one from this website. http://www.herpvetconnection.com
You might also want to providing the detailed information listed below, so that you will receive more accurate and beneficial responses.
Lighting - What brand, model, and type of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Location - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.
Please remember that even the most knowledgeable person can only guess at what your problem may be. Only an experienced reptile veterinarian who can directly examine your animal can give a true diagnosis of your chameleon's health.
You might also want to providing the detailed information listed below, so that you will receive more accurate and beneficial responses.
Lighting - What brand, model, and type of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Location - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.
Please remember that even the most knowledgeable person can only guess at what your problem may be. Only an experienced reptile veterinarian who can directly examine your animal can give a true diagnosis of your chameleon's health.
Julirs
New Member
Go back though old threads-she did not have it until a few weeks ago. You need to see a VET.
Sancho
New Member
Vet is out of the question right now since the local one is closed today. And $115 I don't have.
Lighting - UVB 5.0 Long Bulb, House bulb for heat 7am to 7pm
Temperature - I have 2 temp gauges basking is 80-90 and floor is 70-80
Humidity - Gauges humidity ranges from 60 to 80
Plants - Umbrella plant
Location - In bed room on top of dresser. Window is roughly 5 feet away and only open in the day for sunlight.
Your Chameleon - Veild roughly 10 months old
Handling - not much maybe once a month or so. Except for last night when I was caring for her.
Feeding - Crickets, Hornworms, Waxworms, mealworms don't gut load them feed them directly after I buy them from the store.
Supplements - I got all 3 that this forum has told me to get. I dust with vitimins once a week and dust with cal every feeding of crickets
Watering - Mist daily roughly 3-5 times a day. Have a little dripper in there also.
Fecal Description - white with brown.
Lighting - UVB 5.0 Long Bulb, House bulb for heat 7am to 7pm
Temperature - I have 2 temp gauges basking is 80-90 and floor is 70-80
Humidity - Gauges humidity ranges from 60 to 80
Plants - Umbrella plant
Location - In bed room on top of dresser. Window is roughly 5 feet away and only open in the day for sunlight.
Your Chameleon - Veild roughly 10 months old
Handling - not much maybe once a month or so. Except for last night when I was caring for her.
Feeding - Crickets, Hornworms, Waxworms, mealworms don't gut load them feed them directly after I buy them from the store.
Supplements - I got all 3 that this forum has told me to get. I dust with vitimins once a week and dust with cal every feeding of crickets
Watering - Mist daily roughly 3-5 times a day. Have a little dripper in there also.
Fecal Description - white with brown.
Julirs
New Member
You need to gutload-it is super easy. But I believe your problem lies from when you had not UVB lighting. She will need to see a Vet in order to get a Calcium booster shot. I will ask again, there is no glass or plastic lens over the UVB-right?
And I am apologizing in advance for the sharpness of this remark, but, WHY do people buy animals that they cannot afford to give proper care or medical help to???
And I am apologizing in advance for the sharpness of this remark, but, WHY do people buy animals that they cannot afford to give proper care or medical help to???
BocaJan
New Member
Julirs asked if you had the plastic shield still over the top of the fixture. Many fixtures have a plastic piece that goes over the bulb inside the fixture. The linear bulb must be exposed to the cage below. The only thing that can be between the bulb is is the screen from the cage.
There may also be eggs inside of her. It is hard to tell but I do see a bulge. Anyway, a vet visit is necessary to help your chameleon.
There may also be eggs inside of her. It is hard to tell but I do see a bulge. Anyway, a vet visit is necessary to help your chameleon.
kenya
Avid Member
You need to take that chameleon to a vet NOW. She is very much on the verge of death- I have seen dead MBD- afflicted chams in better shape. It is a very bad sign that she cannot grip and her limbs are like rubber. If you go, right now, to an emergency vet, they may be able to help you by giving her an iv for fluids and a calcium injection. Even if you don't have a reptile savvy vet nearby, make a good decision on a reliable emergency vet and have them call a vet that is more familiar with chams or reptiles in general. They should be able to help them over the phone. You may also want to refer them to an experienced veiled breeder to give suggestions and guide them over the phone- Kammers and FLchams may be good choices. If you do this, be sure to send thank you cards at the very least.
There is something seriously wrong in your husbandry that needs to be addressed- it is good that you got a UVB bulb, but it should have happened much sooner so the damage is done. Chameleons are not a "oh I will just wait until it is financially convenient for me to do it" kind of animal. They have very strict care requirements that ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE MET or they will die.
At the very least, take her to the vet to be euthanized. It may be the kinder thing to do. Also, think very very hard before you get another cham and get the set up FIRST.
I am not trying to be harsh or attack you personally, but you should realize how serious this is. It is not something you can wait on and frankly, it is a cruel thing that you are not taking care of the situation and seem to be upset that people are telling you what you don't want to hear. The members of this forum are very nice people that have a lot of love and compassion for chameleons- it is very hard to see something like this and not get a little ticked that it even occurs in the first place when it is entirely preventable.
Let us know how your vet trip goes.
There is something seriously wrong in your husbandry that needs to be addressed- it is good that you got a UVB bulb, but it should have happened much sooner so the damage is done. Chameleons are not a "oh I will just wait until it is financially convenient for me to do it" kind of animal. They have very strict care requirements that ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE MET or they will die.
At the very least, take her to the vet to be euthanized. It may be the kinder thing to do. Also, think very very hard before you get another cham and get the set up FIRST.
I am not trying to be harsh or attack you personally, but you should realize how serious this is. It is not something you can wait on and frankly, it is a cruel thing that you are not taking care of the situation and seem to be upset that people are telling you what you don't want to hear. The members of this forum are very nice people that have a lot of love and compassion for chameleons- it is very hard to see something like this and not get a little ticked that it even occurs in the first place when it is entirely preventable.
Let us know how your vet trip goes.
THECHAMMAN
Established Member
thank u for doing that be4 i did. i knew how serious it was, i was just waiting for someone else to say it.
Jeremy l
New Member
This isnt something that you can wait on! my cham just got over MBD. it is VERY serious. if you dont want your cham to die a painful death you will get her to the vet. if you dont have the money to take care of her end her suffering and have her put down. it took 3 shots over a weeks time, and a very high calcium regiment to get mine better. i noticed a turn around just after the first shot. it took a total time of 3 weeks befor he was healthy again, so this is something you will have to keep on top of but it is something that you can do. a vet trip isnt $115 if it is find another vet ! you have to get this fixed and start now. if you cant get her to a vet you need to gut load your feeders and also what i did was used apple sauce and mixed in some calcium and vitamins with that. you also mignt need to force feed her. mine was so weak i had to force feed him so he would eat. i diped my crickets in water then calcium then vitamins then put it in his mouth and he ate it. what suppliments do you have ? ? ? ?
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