Calumma malthe
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Lizardlover
New Member
You lucky devil! Keep the Calumma pictures coming! Calumma malthe is such a neat species, I've only seen one or two pics of them before.
Kent67
Retired Moderator
Right, and of course, we all know that millions upon millions of Calumma malthe were exported legally from Madagascar prior to 1995 to provide all those "legal" bloodlines. 
Way to keep supporting the people buying the black market stuff, guys. It really disappoints me that so many people here don't care in the slightest that this is perpetuating the black market trade and the smuggling of wildlife that is supposed to be protected.
Way to keep supporting the people buying the black market stuff, guys. It really disappoints me that so many people here don't care in the slightest that this is perpetuating the black market trade and the smuggling of wildlife that is supposed to be protected.
Lizardlover
New Member
I just think that they have to take into consideration that this species that is so rare, would have to be f14 or f15 which, although possible, is highly unlikely.
Kent67
Retired Moderator
Were your specific animals hatched in Germany? Sure. They look very healthy. I would believe that.
Where did their parents hatch, though? Or their grandparents? I just don't believe the bloodlines go back to pre-1995 when we all know wild-caught Calumma are occasionally sold at shows like Hamm.
Now, go ahead and keep posting pics. I'm a lot less interested in what individuals do than the overall picture of the "chameleon community" thinking that it's ok to support smuggling species that are threatened with extinction.
Where did their parents hatch, though? Or their grandparents? I just don't believe the bloodlines go back to pre-1995 when we all know wild-caught Calumma are occasionally sold at shows like Hamm.
Now, go ahead and keep posting pics. I'm a lot less interested in what individuals do than the overall picture of the "chameleon community" thinking that it's ok to support smuggling species that are threatened with extinction.
morpheon
New Member
You know Happy14, some papers are fake and illegal. This is sadly true, there is indeed a very big black market still going on... You just have to be cautious about what you believe and what you don't believe.
And since some species are protected for a reason, people here are worried to see these species disappear forever. I'm sure you understand.
Now if you want to post some pictures, go ahead. We sure like to see rare pictures!
And since some species are protected for a reason, people here are worried to see these species disappear forever. I'm sure you understand.
Now if you want to post some pictures, go ahead. We sure like to see rare pictures!
Chameleon Loco
New Member
Not that I'd ever buy a protected animal but how much do those go for on the street?
eisentrauti
Avid Member
How I hate those discussions...the USA is still the biggest market for all animals. Do you guys know how many Uroplatus are shipped every year in the States ? Just as an example.
