Building a Hybrid dual Reptibreeze XL cage with drain tray

philwmay

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My niece Sarah and I are setting up a Hybrid dual Reptibreeze XL enclosure for a future male Panther Chameleon. While I am new to reptiles in general, Sarah has been collecting reptiles and arachnids for years. This is however, her first chameleon. We have both been learning a great deal from this forum, the Chameleon Academy Blogs, and youtube videos. We are currently deciding on whether to pursue a bioactive enclosure design or not. Whichever approach we take we are going to make sure we have a stabilized and tested ecosystem in place with healthy plants and functioning hydration before adding a chameleon.

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As shown in the photo, we have assembled the two Reptibreeze XL cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711022181_5125300296_m.jpg

We removed the screen from the two sides which will be mated, then created a 1/2" wide by 1/8" thick seal from a sheet of corrugated plastic and attached it to the open side of one of the two cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711283194_75f64c1bd2_m.jpg

We then joined the cages together with 1" x 6' x 1/16" aluminum flats from Lowes cut to fit and attached with screws around the junction of the cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711439385_07b33b8d0e_m.jpg

We have not yet secured the front of the cage together, but plan to do so with some 3D printed black brackets which will be 3/4" wide by approximately 6" long. We have not reversed one of the doors as we have seen others do. The image shows what the the latch clearance will be when we put the front brackets on.

We have two sets of Dragon Ledges on back order for the cages and when they arrive we will install them and then screw 2' wide black corrugated plastic panels above and below the Dragon Ledges to the back and sides. The black panels will only extend three feet down from the top.

The next step will be to remove the screens from the upper doors and replace them by cutting plexiglas to the openings size and silicon sealing in place.

Finding a drain pan which had just the right dimensions was difficult. I wanted one that the cage would fit inside of with no chance of misting or condensation dripping from the walls to the floor. I finally came across this drain pan from New Pig which looks like it will work well for us. It is made of LDPE (Low Density PolyEthylene) which makes it somewhat flexible which reduces the chances of cracking yet thick and strurdy enough to do the job. It is not super cheap but nothing is these days.

I found it on AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUBQ46M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
The following pictures show details of the pan.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711023191_ff37eff798_m.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711501798_6f55478754_m.jpg

The dime shows the depth clearance at the front of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the back. I measured the cage frame depth as 23 7/8".

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711284189_c63b9bd8c6_m.jpg

The dime shows the width clearance at the side of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the opposite side. I measured the combined cage frame width (including the seal) as 48 1/4".

This is about as far as we have progressed. We look forward to hearing from others. Questions or critiques are equally welcome. We wish to thank everyone who came before us and whose ideas we have pilfered and adapted to get us this far.

Phil and Sarah
 
My niece Sarah and I are setting up a Hybrid dual Reptibreeze XL enclosure for a future male Panther Chameleon. While I am new to reptiles in general, Sarah has been collecting reptiles and arachnids for years. This is however, her first chameleon. We have both been learning a great deal from this forum, the Chameleon Academy Blogs, and youtube videos. We are currently deciding on whether to pursue a bioactive enclosure design or not. Whichever approach we take we are going to make sure we have a stabilized and tested ecosystem in place with healthy plants and functioning hydration before adding a chameleon.

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711282509_fe4ccda4a8_m.jpg

As shown in the photo, we have assembled the two Reptibreeze XL cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711022181_5125300296_m.jpg

We removed the screen from the two sides which will be mated, then created a 1/2" wide by 1/8" thick seal from a sheet of corrugated plastic and attached it to the open side of one of the two cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711283194_75f64c1bd2_m.jpg

We then joined the cages together with 1" x 6' x 1/16" aluminum flats from Lowes cut to fit and attached with screws around the junction of the cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711439385_07b33b8d0e_m.jpg

We have not yet secured the front of the cage together, but plan to do so with some 3D printed black brackets which will be 3/4" wide by approximately 6" long. We have not reversed one of the doors as we have seen others do. The image shows what the the latch clearance will be when we put the front brackets on.

We have two sets of Dragon Ledges on back order for the cages and when they arrive we will install them and then screw 2' wide black corrugated plastic panels above and below the Dragon Ledges to the back and sides. The black panels will only extend three feet down from the top.

The next step will be to remove the screens from the upper doors and replace them by cutting plexiglas to the openings size and silicon sealing in place.

Finding a drain pan which had just the right dimensions was difficult. I wanted one that the cage would fit inside of with no chance of misting or condensation dripping from the walls to the floor. I finally came across this drain pan from New Pig which looks like it will work well for us. It is made of LDPE (Low Density PolyEthylene) which makes it somewhat flexible which reduces the chances of cracking yet thick and strurdy enough to do the job. It is not super cheap but nothing is these days.

I found it on AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUBQ46M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
The following pictures show details of the pan.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711023191_ff37eff798_m.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711501798_6f55478754_m.jpg

The dime shows the depth clearance at the front of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the back. I measured the cage frame depth as 23 7/8".

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711284189_c63b9bd8c6_m.jpg

The dime shows the width clearance at the side of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the opposite side. I measured the combined cage frame width (including the seal) as 48 1/4".

This is about as far as we have progressed. We look forward to hearing from others. Questions or critiques are equally welcome. We wish to thank everyone who came before us and whose ideas we have pilfered and adapted to get us this far.

Phil and Sarah
looks great if you don’t end up doing bio active. You could always cut a whole in the middle then use like pvc pipe connect it to a bucket that way you’ll never have to wetvac the water out and will make maintenance a little easier.
 
My niece Sarah and I are setting up a Hybrid dual Reptibreeze XL enclosure for a future male Panther Chameleon. While I am new to reptiles in general, Sarah has been collecting reptiles and arachnids for years. This is however, her first chameleon. We have both been learning a great deal from this forum, the Chameleon Academy Blogs, and youtube videos. We are currently deciding on whether to pursue a bioactive enclosure design or not. Whichever approach we take we are going to make sure we have a stabilized and tested ecosystem in place with healthy plants and functioning hydration before adding a chameleon.

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711282509_fe4ccda4a8_m.jpg

As shown in the photo, we have assembled the two Reptibreeze XL cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711022181_5125300296_m.jpg

We removed the screen from the two sides which will be mated, then created a 1/2" wide by 1/8" thick seal from a sheet of corrugated plastic and attached it to the open side of one of the two cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711283194_75f64c1bd2_m.jpg

We then joined the cages together with 1" x 6' x 1/16" aluminum flats from Lowes cut to fit and attached with screws around the junction of the cages.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711439385_07b33b8d0e_m.jpg

We have not yet secured the front of the cage together, but plan to do so with some 3D printed black brackets which will be 3/4" wide by approximately 6" long. We have not reversed one of the doors as we have seen others do. The image shows what the the latch clearance will be when we put the front brackets on.

We have two sets of Dragon Ledges on back order for the cages and when they arrive we will install them and then screw 2' wide black corrugated plastic panels above and below the Dragon Ledges to the back and sides. The black panels will only extend three feet down from the top.

The next step will be to remove the screens from the upper doors and replace them by cutting plexiglas to the openings size and silicon sealing in place.

Finding a drain pan which had just the right dimensions was difficult. I wanted one that the cage would fit inside of with no chance of misting or condensation dripping from the walls to the floor. I finally came across this drain pan from New Pig which looks like it will work well for us. It is made of LDPE (Low Density PolyEthylene) which makes it somewhat flexible which reduces the chances of cracking yet thick and strurdy enough to do the job. It is not super cheap but nothing is these days.

I found it on AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUBQ46M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
The following pictures show details of the pan.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711023191_ff37eff798_m.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711501798_6f55478754_m.jpg

The dime shows the depth clearance at the front of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the back. I measured the cage frame depth as 23 7/8".

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52711284189_c63b9bd8c6_m.jpg

The dime shows the width clearance at the side of the cage with the cage pushed all the way to the opposite side. I measured the combined cage frame width (including the seal) as 48 1/4".

This is about as far as we have progressed. We look forward to hearing from others. Questions or critiques are equally welcome. We wish to thank everyone who came before us and whose ideas we have pilfered and adapted to get us this far.

Phil and Sarah
Looks great!
 
@SteveH has given excellent advice.
I love that not only are you getting everything set up before getting your chameleon, but that you are starting out with a double size enclosure. I keep my males in double sized and they use all of the space. Unfortunately I just don’t have the room in my house to give my girls double sized enclosures too.
 
looks great if you don’t end up doing bio active. You could always cut a whole in the middle then use like pvc pipe connect it to a bucket that way you’ll never have to wetvac the water out and will make maintenance a little easier.
Thanks for your reply. We want to install a close to flush fitting drain to the bottom of the pan. The pan has a raised diagonal rib pattern which will limit the diameter of the hole and any fitting which we can install to about 1-1/4" diameter. I'm searching for candidate fittings now.
20230226_094200 by Philip MAY, on Flickr
 
Until you hone your skill in chameleon keeping I would go with just a bare bottom enclosure. You can always upgrade to bioactive.
Thanks for your response. Waiting does have the substantial benefit of reducing the number of variables being juggled during the period when the chameleon is adapting to the cage and we are learning and adapting to the chameleon.
 
@SteveH has given excellent advice.
I love that not only are you getting everything set up before getting your chameleon, but that you are starting out with a double size enclosure. I keep my males in double sized and they use all of the space. Unfortunately I just don’t have the room in my house to give my girls double sized enclosures too.
Thanks MissSkittles, we have an oversized dining room which has been underutilized so Sarah has decided to use the space for larger reptiles. She has also been talking about wanting an enclosure for a bearded dragon. :)
 
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