Breeding myth
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Lizardlover
New Member
That is completely false.
camimom
New Member
That makes no sense to me. I mean dont get me wrong, there are animals that breed once then die, like salmon, but chameleons?
yea sure breeding more than once takes its toll on the female, and could potentially kill her, if she doesnt get enough calcium or has really large clutches. but come on, really?
yea sure breeding more than once takes its toll on the female, and could potentially kill her, if she doesnt get enough calcium or has really large clutches. but come on, really?
Pilotman800
New Member
Go to that petshop, and smack him. 
But in all seriousness, that is not true, and most of us on this forum have learned that 9 out of 10 times, pet shops do NOT know what they're talking about when it comes to chameleons. Your best bet is to read information on here, and draw your own conclusions.
But in all seriousness, that is not true, and most of us on this forum have learned that 9 out of 10 times, pet shops do NOT know what they're talking about when it comes to chameleons. Your best bet is to read information on here, and draw your own conclusions.
Seeco
Avid Member
Hmm statistically that is not so false. There are about a million inactive accounts here with the same sequence of threads to their name:
1) My New Guy!!!
2) Buddy Is NOt Eating!!!
3) Why Is My Chameleon Digging?
4) So, Buddy Is A Girl!!!
5) Buddy Laid Eggs
6) HELP!!!!!!!!Buddy Does Not Look Good
And then they never return to the forums. Those people probably get perfect instructions here but they just do not have the time or care to do as told. Imagine how many people never even find this website and what happens to their chams...
1) My New Guy!!!
2) Buddy Is NOt Eating!!!
3) Why Is My Chameleon Digging?
4) So, Buddy Is A Girl!!!
5) Buddy Laid Eggs
6) HELP!!!!!!!!Buddy Does Not Look Good
And then they never return to the forums. Those people probably get perfect instructions here but they just do not have the time or care to do as told. Imagine how many people never even find this website and what happens to their chams...
Texas Panther Man
New Member
Total bs. Another example of some pet store employee talking about something they no absolutely nothing about.
You can breed your healthy female between the ages of 1-3yrs old. After 3 yrs old I think they should be left as pets to enjoy their remaining yrs. So if you breed them once a yr. You can safely breed them twice before allowing them to retire. (She'll prob lay an original clutch and then lay a cpl of retained clutches from each mating.) So you could get as many as 6-8 clutches from just two breeding opps.
It does take a toll for them to be bred. But at the same time thats what they are designed to do. As long as shes healthy and is fed a good diet with gutloaded insects and has access to an approp laying bin it shouldnt be anything that the female cant handle. But that why I say only breed once a yr. Because most females will lay more than one clutch. That gives them a good six months to recover after the last retained clutch is laid before breeding commences again the following yr.
You can breed your healthy female between the ages of 1-3yrs old. After 3 yrs old I think they should be left as pets to enjoy their remaining yrs. So if you breed them once a yr. You can safely breed them twice before allowing them to retire. (She'll prob lay an original clutch and then lay a cpl of retained clutches from each mating.) So you could get as many as 6-8 clutches from just two breeding opps.
It does take a toll for them to be bred. But at the same time thats what they are designed to do. As long as shes healthy and is fed a good diet with gutloaded insects and has access to an approp laying bin it shouldnt be anything that the female cant handle. But that why I say only breed once a yr. Because most females will lay more than one clutch. That gives them a good six months to recover after the last retained clutch is laid before breeding commences again the following yr.
camimom
New Member
I agree that people think a chubby cham is a healthy cham. However, when it comes to females, i think its a very bad idea to keep them chubbier. if they are a tiny bit skinny (and i mean nice good lean weight, not underfed) then they will be healthier in the long run bc you cna avoid large clutches or even laying all together if not bred.
Texas Panther Man
New Member
Thats why novice keepers should leave the breeding to more exp keepers/breeders.
I have no intention of breeding them, we just got into a conversation about them and he said if you breed them after 12 months old their pelvis is fused and cannot pass the eggs, if you breed them before you can only do it once or they will die, Im no expert but it was hard not to laugh.
Texas Panther Man
New Member
Thats hilarious. When i first saw a cham and was interested in them the store employee actually tried to tell me you had to clip the hind legs off their cricks so they could eat them. lol I had exp with other exotics and knew this to be a total crock. I had to be a smart aleck and said so who has fingernail clippers and goes around the rainforest clipping legs off cricks & grasshoppers. For some reason she didnt think I was funny.
Olimpia
Biologist & Ecologist
Wow that's crap. Obviously it's someone that doesn't know anything about anatomy or physiology. There aren't any wild animals that can't pass eggs or young through their pelvis. The ones that can't are a few man-made dog breeds. Chameleons would probably have a really hard time out in the wild if their females were dropping dead like flies from breeding once!
Fearaffect
Avid Member
hinoco1225
New Member
Does his store breed chams? He probably has some sort of experience with someone who bred chams and didn't know how to take care of the female properly afterward.
Pilotman800
New Member
Thats hilarious. When i first saw a cham and was interested in them the store employee actually tried to tell me you had to clip the hind legs off their cricks so they could eat them. lol I had exp with other exotics and knew this to be a total crock. I had to be a smart aleck and said so who has fingernail clippers and goes around the rainforest clipping legs off cricks & grasshoppers. For some reason she didnt think I was funny.
That actually made me laugh really hard, haha!
Im SO surprised that cham didn't do a death roll on the guy who kept holding him by his sides to pick him up. Must be the most mellow cham on earth.
