Bradypodium Uthmoelleri Update....

[PardalisGirl]

I got some better pictures of my Bradypodium Uthmoelleri pair this week. I got the pair about a month ago. They have adjusted well together and have grown quite a bit. They have a real appetite too. I am feeding them small crickets and cultured house flies that have been gutloaded with my homemade gooey fly gutload. I feed the crickets first to make sure they get a varied diet. They like the flies best but I don't want them just eating one thing. They are not interested in silkworms or roaches yet.

I am amazed at the range of color and pattern changes this pair goes through. Sometimes they are solid light green with pretty speckles. When they bask they get a light background with dark mottling. When they sleep they are almost a lemon yellow. I'm having a very hard time catching these color changes or just photographing them at all. They are very shy with me. They understand the cage door concept. As soon as I open it they run for cover. They get along together great. They often sleep together with one clutching the back of the other one. They are in a fairly large cage and it is interesting that they have started to seek each other out at night to sleep together.

Here is a picture that shows the pretty mottled coloration:



This is a picture of the female, Anisa, looking up at the male:



Here is another picture of the mottled pattern they get. Take a close look at how long the tail is:



They love house flies. Here is the male, Safi, getting ready to zap a fly:



And here is Safi munching the fly. I'm not quick enough to capture the fly being zapped. I also had to let a couple of flies escape into the house to get these shots:



I am really fascinated by this tiny pair. I find myself stopping by their cage to watch them more than just about anything else

 

[Dean Pulcini]

Very nice, hope you can breed them successfully.

 

[Kent67]

That's funny, I was just thinking about these animals earlier today and pondering asking you for an update That is indeed very interesting that they are seeking each other out at night. Thanks for the update and pics, they look great!

 

[PardalisGirl]

Sleeping Together......

Thanks Kent! That is funny that you were thinking about them. I have been trying off and on for a week to get better pictures. Here is another one of the pair sleeping together. I woke them up with the flash after taking several pictures and they got a little pissed and puffed up slightly:



I just had a fly hit me in the face while I was typing this. I'm hoping my cats can catch the ones that got out

 

[Trace]

Wowsers, they look even better than when you first got them! That's fabulous.

I won't get tired of seeing pics of those woggley-eyed monsters.
Cheers!
t

P.S. It's Kinyongia Uthmoelleri now.
P.P.S I know a few snakes that can take care of your cat problem...

 

[Kent67]

No problem. So, I take it from your response that I don't need to worry about you spying on my thoughts then?

As for the uthmoelleri, I've always liked them the most of the F1 rare stuff that Nick and others have brought in from Tanz. Does the female ever climb up on the male's back at night too? Also, I've been wondering if anyone who's purchased some of the F1's would comment on how "healthy" they have been. Are they comparable to a domestic bred animals? Parasite loads, etc?

Thanks again for sharing them. It seems like this is the panthers and veileds only forum sometimes so something rare like these are a treat to see.

 

[PardalisGirl]

Classification Change?

So Trace.........have they changed the classification of them to Kinyongia? Did this just change since I bought them? Do you know any of the reasons for the change? If I've got them, I want to know anything I can about them. I wish my camera could capture the little speckles of blue on their heads and body. They are much more attractive in person than in the photos.

And Kent..........they switch around from night to night. They just seem to like being close while asleep (and vulnerable?). Sometimes it's side to side or one behind the other. It's odd because they are very shy with me if I open the cage door, but they always sleep in the open. They could easily sleep securely hidden in the plants but they never do. During the day they just roam around pretty independently. They are very active. They are in a thirty six inch cage and they travel up and down most of it except the very bottom. I have a thirty inch potted Hoya topiary plant that is their favorite. It's shaped into a tall column. They can hide in the middle of the column or within the twining vines. I also have a shorter ficus plant in their cage. They spend some time every day basking at the top. I am wondering how big they will get. I know it won't be very big. They were hatched out at the end of June so they are about six months old. After working with Panthers it's hard to imagine the tiny female laying eggs!

 

[Trace]

They are much more attractive in person than in the photos.

Aren't they! Their spots remind me of fireworks. Bright, dazzling spots that light up the sky.

The uthies changed to the new genus (Kinyongia) in 2006 along with adolfifriderici, carpenteri, excubitor, fischeri, tavetanum, xenorhinum, oxyrhinum and tenue. DNA testing has proved that those 9 species are not closely related to the Bradypodion as originally thought and the new genus was created. There is one other new genus as well - Nadzikambia.

Cheers,
t

 

[PardalisGirl]

Kinyongia indeed

I did a Google on Kinyongia.....It obviously did change. Nick had them advertised on Kingsnake as Bradypodium and never called them anything else in our correspondence at that time. When I Googled Bradypodium at that time, stuff came up that did not indicate any change. Or at least I did not read it, if it was there. I can see how the things they changed to Kinyongia along with the Uthmoelleri are similar. Some incredibly beautiful things in that classification. Now I just have to train my brain to think of them as Kinyongia