Baby werneri
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shaneofall
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Awesome! Good luck on the good ones.
Mike Fisher
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Congrats on the good ones.....Any ideas on what would cause those deformities?
CarlC
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Lynda the adults have been with me approximently 9 month's. These babies are from retained sperm. Both females while already gravid mated around March or April. This should put her next clutch due around December.
I'll get more pictures up this weekend. The other female looks much bigger then this girl so it will be interesting to see what happens with her babies.
Carl
I'll get more pictures up this weekend. The other female looks much bigger then this girl so it will be interesting to see what happens with her babies.
Carl
CarlC
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Mike I don't really have any idea's at this point. My other female is ready to drop also so I need to see how hers are. Both girls used retain sperm on these clutch's. Their next clutch's are from matings here.
Carl
CarlC
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I will be putting the severely deformed babies down. They have no eye's so they would just starve.
Carl
junglefries
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You told me they were coming. You my friend were correct. I went through the deformity dilemma once. Ferretinmyshoes made the final point in my decision for me, and had the best solution. I tried several litters of the ones who were different, but a huge majority would never make it in the long run. Sure, a kinked tail, runty legs, or a hunched back may make it, but... Sometimes you have finish what mother nature would have done herself. Suffering is never good, for no one or no thing.
Only ever had two deformities in all my years of breeding....one was he very first chameleon (common chameleon) I hatched and she had a very slight curve to the spine half way down. I chocked it up to hatching at too high a temperature and/or the position in the incubator. The second was NOT a chameleon but a green water dragon and it had a cleft pallet (sp). I hoped it would survive, long enough to have it repaired but it choked and I couldn't clear its airway so it died. 
. The chameleon lived a normal life.
I've heard of the lack of fully formed eyes before. It seems to be one of the most common deformities.
Junglefries...what were the deformities you had and what species?
. The chameleon lived a normal life.I've heard of the lack of fully formed eyes before. It seems to be one of the most common deformities.
Junglefries...what were the deformities you had and what species?
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Birth defects....
https://www.chameleonforums.com/birth-defects-graphic-images-70495/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/birth-defects-graphic-images-70495/
junglefries
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https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-w-premie-jax-babies-116892/
Panther: One had a kink tail. However, not sure if he was born that way. Discovered it before he was six weeks old. One had kind of an arched back. However, when I delivered him to original owner he was fine. I replaced anyway. Both hatched earlier than clutchmates.
Jacksons: One female I bought gave birth three days after I got her home. Didn't know she was pregnant. Did not show at all. I attributed it to young age and stress of new situation. She was way too young to have been bred. They were have half formed, slugs, etc... Another female gave birth to babies with no rear legs or tails, slugs, still borns. No eye issues or anything. More like the issues of little leaf. I wonder if these occurences are higher recently or more people are having success breeding live bearing. I gave up breeding jacksons because it is just to heart wrenching to watch. I never had the opportunity to start with a quality female from birth and breed her two years later. So I really can't give a fair opinion on the subject. I wish I had started with some from carl, nick or mike and gone from there. My experiences may have been completely different.
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The common chameleon also hatched earlier than the rest of the clutch which is why I figured it was due to the position in the incubator or the temperature being too high.
I wonder if the first live bearing one was in captivity for most of her pregnancy and care/stress did contribute to it. Not sure what to think about the second one. Certainly sad at any rate.
Carl...maybe a little hooe for the eyes...
http://geckoforums.net/f133-hatchling-care/48774.htm
I wonder if the first live bearing one was in captivity for most of her pregnancy and care/stress did contribute to it. Not sure what to think about the second one. Certainly sad at any rate.
Carl...maybe a little hooe for the eyes...
http://geckoforums.net/f133-hatchling-care/48774.htm
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CarlC
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I'll post some pictures of the deformities in Chris's thread https://www.chameleonforums.com/birth-defects-graphic-images-70495/
Carl
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