baby panther male or female??

[Stacey5089]

so this is my second panther chameleon to hatch it hatched yesterday... it looks different to the first one and im pretty sure that is a female so im hoping for a male any suggestions??

 

[cambech]

I think i can see a bulge in pic 2. maybe male. that's a tuff one.

 

[Lpsouth1978]

I think i can see a bulge in pic 2. maybe male. that's a tuff one.

My understanding, from a lot of reading on this forum, is that males don't have a bulge at this age. The hemipenes have not developed yet, so there is a small indentation at the base of the tail where the hemipenes would be.

Otherwise I can't say male or female. I have not mastered sexing young panthers yet.

 

[Stacey5089]

i know im finding it hard too im just not sure! but i am pretty sure this is a female what do you think?? not a great picture but shes realy pink!

 

[SSimsswiSS]

i know im finding it hard too im just not sure! but i am pretty sure this is a female what do you think?? not a great picture but shes realy pink!

Looking female - beigy body with no lateral white marks

 

[Stacey5089]

Looking female - beigy body with no lateral white marks

What about the other photo male??

 

[Olimpia]

I think the first guy is male, at least from the second photo. It's the only one at the right angle but I see a pretty thick tail base.

 

[SSimsswiSS]

What about the other photo male??

They are dark photos so can't tell. Is the lateral lines beige (female) colored, or white (male)

 

[Stacey5089]

They are dark photos so can't tell. Is the lateral lines beige (female) colored, or white (male)

Sometimes the line is an off white colour but erlier today I was watching it climb and it was pure white any help lol

 

[Stacey5089]

I think the first guy is male, at least from the second photo. It's the only one at the right angle but I see a pretty thick tail base.

I hope your right I think the darker one has a thicker tail too

 

[carol5208]

I think the first is 100% male. The second pic you posted farther down I cannot see the tail so I could not speculate other than the coloring looks female. At that young of an age some of the males can look female in color also so really hard to say without seeing the vent/tail area..

 

[Stacey5089]

heres a better picture of the presumed female

 

[SSimsswiSS]

Sometimes the line is an off white colour but erlier today I was watching it climb and it was pure white any help lol

Off white / pure white is good sign of male. It's a visual thing, when you raise a bunch, you delevop a eye for it. Really hard part is telling panthers apart in the 2 to 3 month old stage sometimes. Pictured is typical soft female colors. Where as males tend to have darker patterns/shades.

 

[Stacey5089]

I guess I will just have to wait until hes a little older to know for sure... This is the first time ive bred my chameleons and I had never seen hatchlings before but I knew instantly the first one that hatched was a female but im just not sure about this one they have totally different patterns and colours but I will wait for a week or 2 And see if anything changes

 

[carol5208]

heres a better picture of the presumed female

For sure female. The tail is thin and there is that little indent.