Babies stuck in eggs.
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Ren
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I had one egg hatch out of the 9 i had left from Aprils first clutch, after reading this I am wondering if this could be a possibility with my eggs as well, does this happen that often , is there a chance this is whats going on with my eggs? and how can i tell.... out of the 8 i have left, 3 are really large and seem to be ready to pop, the others are larger than when they were layed however not nearly as big as the 3 i mentioned..... i can post more pics of them if need be, Im just starting to worry about the remaining eggs. Clingy was hatched on Aug 16th. and nothing since...
boothy
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when my veild chameleon babies start to hatch i mist very heavily, i think the humidity helps them break there egg shell abit better and i find they just pop out one after another, but dont be worrying soo much some eggs are early bird hatchers and others later bloomers so all yea can do is hold your patience and when it molds then i would be throughing it out, it also depends on how welll developed the embryo was inside the egg befor being layed , some are just faster and some slower so just keep incubating them until mold forms
TreelionsUK
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I would not mist them,i think the problem was too much moisture when incubating the eggs causing the shells to become rubbery like leather and the babys cannot break the shell,
No more mosture is needed when the egg hatches more than enough mosture is created as the eggs sweat.
No more mosture is needed when the egg hatches more than enough mosture is created as the eggs sweat.
PardalisGirl
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Babies stuck in eggs
This is a tough one......a lot of it has to do with the condition of the mother and whether the egg was in a proper condition when it was laid. Then you add on the factors of proper moisture and temperature during the months of incubation. These things all determine whether or not the egg shell will be in the proper state for the neonate to slit it and emerge. One thing I have noticed, and wonder if others have too, is that the smallest eggs hatch first. I thought it would be the other way around when I first got started. Now I think the smaller eggs run out of resources first, so they hatch. I've got a clutch of Ambilobes that has been hatching out for two weeks. The smallest hatched first. The big eggs just sat there looking no different for two weeks. Now the biggest eggs are starting to hatch. These babies are bigger than the ones from the small eggs. They had more resources and so they stayed in the egg and used them to grow as big as possible.
I have another clutch of Ambanja eggs that is having problems. I think the eggs are too thick and hard for them to break out. I think the moisture is correct. Adding moisture is not going to help the shell thin out. I think the eggs had problems from the beginning. Most of the clutch spoiled and was tossed. I can ponder these earlier problems and try to prevent them in the future. But I still have these problem good eggs. The eggs sweat but the neonate can't get out. One died in the egg. I knew the others would die too so I decided to intervene. I watch them closely. After they start to sweat pretty good I slit the egg myself. I've done it with two eggs and have gotten both neonates to survive. I have three eggs left to watch and will do the same thing.
The more eggs you have to care for the easier it is to tell right off the bat if they are good or bad. It becomes easier to see if the shell looks right in the end for proper slitting of the egg. You can even see the shell thin out prior to hatching. You can look at the shells and figure out which egg is likely to hatch next too. You can observe the sweating of the egg and see if that looks normal. There is a large learning curve with hatching eggs. There are so many variables in the process. There could sometimes be the "should I intervene or not" question to wrestle with. Not all interventions will end up being successful. I try not to fuss with the eggs but I try to really observe them and the changes they go through. It's pretty interesting. Hope this helps. I would not worry about the bigger eggs yet Ren. I think they are just using the larger resources they have to grow. Start worrying when the shell changes in some way or sweats and nothing comes out later on. Have a good weekend everyone
This is a tough one......a lot of it has to do with the condition of the mother and whether the egg was in a proper condition when it was laid. Then you add on the factors of proper moisture and temperature during the months of incubation. These things all determine whether or not the egg shell will be in the proper state for the neonate to slit it and emerge. One thing I have noticed, and wonder if others have too, is that the smallest eggs hatch first. I thought it would be the other way around when I first got started. Now I think the smaller eggs run out of resources first, so they hatch. I've got a clutch of Ambilobes that has been hatching out for two weeks. The smallest hatched first. The big eggs just sat there looking no different for two weeks. Now the biggest eggs are starting to hatch. These babies are bigger than the ones from the small eggs. They had more resources and so they stayed in the egg and used them to grow as big as possible.
I have another clutch of Ambanja eggs that is having problems. I think the eggs are too thick and hard for them to break out. I think the moisture is correct. Adding moisture is not going to help the shell thin out. I think the eggs had problems from the beginning. Most of the clutch spoiled and was tossed. I can ponder these earlier problems and try to prevent them in the future. But I still have these problem good eggs. The eggs sweat but the neonate can't get out. One died in the egg. I knew the others would die too so I decided to intervene. I watch them closely. After they start to sweat pretty good I slit the egg myself. I've done it with two eggs and have gotten both neonates to survive. I have three eggs left to watch and will do the same thing.
The more eggs you have to care for the easier it is to tell right off the bat if they are good or bad. It becomes easier to see if the shell looks right in the end for proper slitting of the egg. You can even see the shell thin out prior to hatching. You can look at the shells and figure out which egg is likely to hatch next too. You can observe the sweating of the egg and see if that looks normal. There is a large learning curve with hatching eggs. There are so many variables in the process. There could sometimes be the "should I intervene or not" question to wrestle with. Not all interventions will end up being successful. I try not to fuss with the eggs but I try to really observe them and the changes they go through. It's pretty interesting. Hope this helps. I would not worry about the bigger eggs yet Ren. I think they are just using the larger resources they have to grow. Start worrying when the shell changes in some way or sweats and nothing comes out later on. Have a good weekend everyone
boothy
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sorry ren i should of decribe it better , no i just mist the tops of the tupperwear containers pretty good when they are starting to hatch , i also use abit drier substrate then others so i dont have this no hatching problem i make sure the moisture line is almost level with the dirt and then illl leave it for a couple days and then mist heavily again , but never mist the eggs directly , thats bad! but pardalis girl thats is some great info for starter breeders , i found it very useful thanks alot for sharing your intelegence and your hawk eye lol
Fate X
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i had 1 that couldnt get out of the egg,i waited for 3 days ,it was alive ,trying to get out but it wasnt getting no where.
then i put a light at it so i could see and part of the egg had rolled around its shoulder i would say it looked.
it was a small piece , i reached to it with my fingernails and got hold of both sides and carefully pulled in opposite directions and it was like leather then i got my knife and just put the tip behind the piece of rolled skin and sliced it.
then i watched. it crawled out and its still here.
then i put a light at it so i could see and part of the egg had rolled around its shoulder i would say it looked.
it was a small piece , i reached to it with my fingernails and got hold of both sides and carefully pulled in opposite directions and it was like leather then i got my knife and just put the tip behind the piece of rolled skin and sliced it.
then i watched. it crawled out and its still here.
Ren
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Jeez, you guys got my head running now... i will take a pic of the remaining eggs so you guys can see them... the eggs have windowed quite a bit and are clearing out somewhat, the largest egg has been seen with sweat on it before, and i swear i have seen the eggs move the night of the first hatching.... i just cant believe the rest aren't cooperating
PardalisGirl
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Hey Ren.........I would not freak out about your eggs yet. I had two more Ambilobe eggs hatch overnight. But the three largest eggs of the clutch are just sitting there. The egg shells have thinned. I think it will be a few days before they hatch. The neonates still have food to suck up, so why leave? It's going to be a three week process for this clutch. My problem eggs had shells that were obviously too thick. I waited until I saw the heavy sweating with no possibility of slitting the egg to do anything. Do post pictures of the eggs but try to relax. How is little Clingy doing?
Ren
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She is doing great she drinks well and eats the FF easily, i also have pin head crickets in there but she doesn't get off the plant mush to hunt after them... the flies crawl around much better and seem to be a better deal, I am just gonna keep checking the eggs and not do anything with them, if they start to spoil or mold then ill get rid of them, otherwise ill wait till the are petrified, hahah ill have pet eggs...
Vegas Chad
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Dont forget to make that call today...
PardalisGirl
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Good plan Ren......It sounds like they will be fine. From what you said earlier the shells sound like they are the way they should be. The baby has to run out of food before it has a reason to eject
