Another one bites dust, bummer

OldChamKeeper

Chameleon Enthusiast
A long time ago, decades actually, I thought to myself " I wonder how many of these die in captivity"

Back then there was no Internet, no way of touching base or keeping track with other keepers. Hell back then it was actually hard to find others who have kept these neat animals. A lot has changed over time.

Many know I have tried for nearly a year to locate some female Mt. Meru's. Right before X-Mas I was contacted by a keeper who purchased a few from the recent European shipment. He needed space for a species he really wanted more than the Meru's.

Super nice guy. I purchased two from him at a fair price. I noticed both had minor issues but after looking for so long I was willing to give them a shot. I didn't even mention the health issues to him since I didn't want him to think I was nickel and diming him. I'm not a novice and the issues I observed in one was rubber jaw (MBD) and the other had motor skill issues with its rear legs. Nothing I felt was beyond a chance at reversing. A roll of the dice is how I always view it. His asking price was fair and less than the $350 asked to import from Europe so I took my chances.

Sadly, Ingrid (all chams get a name here) passed last night. I'm always a tad surprised at how much I care when a Cham passes

At first, Ingrid ate well but clearly favored soft foods. Flies or silkies mostly with some small crickets minus the hind legs. A little water mixed with some straight Ca was given twice a week. I use and love the Repashy brand of supplements and currently use "Supermed" which is the calcium with medium D3. All foods are gut loaded. Lightly powdered food items are offered once a week. My male has thrived now for over 16 months on this routine, and Ingrid was doing ok for about the first few weeks. However I noticed she was simply not thriving, unlike the other one (Helga). In Helga a diluted drop of a liquid multi vitamin supplement was given three times a week. After two weeks I noticed her motor skills had become normal. In the time I've had both, Helga has grown like a weed. Ingrid did not.

Last night she ate and drank but was clearly not feeling well. I saw the telltale closing of the eyes and knew in the morning I'd have to look at getting her to my herp vet since anybody who has lost a Cham knows what those closed eyes mean, you're running out of time.

What I didn't know was time had run out. She passed overnight. I've seen crashes before but gotta say this was a fast one. I was told a few other Merus from Europe didn't arrive in good shape either so I am lucky in that Helga is thriving and was able to recover. Ingrid was not able to sadly. That said and thinking decades back to where I once pondered how many die, I am grateful for this website and the information that is shared here, even the losses we suffer.

Seeing the successes we have as a group as well as being able see the losses is a powerful tool in this hobby/industry. As such I felt comfortable posting this here.
 
It is always so hard to lose a cham. And losing one that has just been imported, so there is no way you can get another, is really heartbreaking. Since you are lucky enough to have a female left and you already had a male you may be able to breed yours. I know the other member isn't thinking his are as lovely as what he already has, but I think he has dealt with the health issues, except broken horns. My hope again is between the two of you we will soon have cb Mt. Meru's. I am so hopeful that somewhere among the import's we will have success. Tt is looking like coldbloodedal may be the one most likely to get babies from his.

I just went through that recently when I lost Sophia, my female B. transvaalense. She came from the import that arrived the end of May. As of now all 4 of the imported female B. transvaalense, sent out to those of us buying them have died. Showjet95 (the importer) still has 2 female B. transvaalense, so maybe shipping and all the stress is part of is, a couple of the other guys lost some of the other two species that came in. Mine was smaller that I expected but I was able to keep mine alive the longest.

The real heartbreak is what high hopes we all had when we order then to be able to breed them and start a b colony here in the US. I may never hear the end of spending $1000 on chams that I was never able to breed. Not to mention how much my OH hates for me to cry.
 
That really is a bummer. It's unfortunate the you've had some bad luck with your Meru's hopefully your other female will work out for you. I would love to see a nice picture of your male sometime.

The Meru's I received from Paul are doing good the females have settled in and are showing some nice colors. The male is not quite there yet but getting there slowly. I really think part of the reason they are doing so well is their night time temperatures. They see temperatures down to the high 40's low 50's every night.

I hope your others do well.
 
... Since you are lucky enough to have a female left and you already had a male you may be able to breed yours. I know the other member isn't thinking his are as lovely as what he already has, but I think he has dealt with the health issues, except broken horns. My hope again is between the two of you we will soon have cb Mt. Meru's. I am so hopeful that somewhere among the import's we will have success. Tt is looking like coldbloodedal may be the one most likely to get babies from his...

That's what I was thinking, although I didn't know coldbloodedal was looking good too :)
I expect you are planning to breed Helga then?
 
It is always so hard to lose a cham. And losing one that has just been imported, so there is no way you can get another, is really heartbreaking. Since you are lucky enough to have a female left and you already had a male you may be able to breed yours. I know the other member isn't thinking his are as lovely as what he already has, but I think he has dealt with the health issues, except broken horns. My hope again is between the two of you we will soon have cb Mt. Meru's. I am so hopeful that somewhere among the import's we will have success. Tt is looking like coldbloodedal may be the one most likely to get babies from his.

I just went through that recently when I lost Sophia, my female B. transvaalense. She came from the import that arrived the end of May. As of now all 4 of the imported female B. transvaalense, sent out to those of us buying them have died. Showjet95 (the importer) still has 2 female B. transvaalense, so maybe shipping and all the stress is part of is, a couple of the other guys lost some of the other two species that came in. Mine was smaller that I expected but I was able to keep mine alive the longest.

The real heartbreak is what high hopes we all had when we order then to be able to breed them and start a b colony here in the US. I may never hear the end of spending $1000 on chams that I was never able to breed. Not to mention how much my OH hates for me to cry.

I saw all those Brady's when they came in although I couldn't see their condition through their shipping cages they seemed active. I was really surprised how small they were. Dealing with imported chameleons that small is always a risk I would think, just not much margin for error. Sorry you lost yours Laurie.
 
I'm sorry for your loss! Poor girl. I'd be livid if I had imported animals that had apparent issues like MBD, which are so easily avoided.
 
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