An Investigation Into the Chemical Composition of Alternative Invertebrate Prey...

[kinyonga]

https://www.caudata.org/cc/pdfs/alternative-invertebrate-prey.pdf

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Another feeder insect nutritional analysis?

 

[kinyonga]

Maybe with enough information we will eventually be able to get the captive diet "right" and understand what the chameleon gets in the wild that we aren't providing in captivity.

Maybe we will be able to solve things like the vitamin A issue...do chameleons need prEformed or not? Can any convert carotenoids or do they need prey that already has a prEformed source in? Do they even need much vitamin A?

Gotta keep on studying to learn!

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I agree. The difficulty seems that nutrients & levels can vary depending on what the bugs eat.

Maybe with enough information we will eventually be able to get the captive diet "right" and understand what the chameleon gets in the wild that we aren't providing in captivity.

For that, wouldn't it make sense to analyze samplings of bugs from the chameleon's native habitat (not a recreation)?

 

[kinyonga]

Won't we need to know both...what the things they eat in wild and what they eat in captivity...so we can compare them and make the captive diet contain the same nutrients that the wild insects contain.

 

[Kaizen]

I can’t tell you how topical this is, K! Your skill at putting your hands on this kind of literature is outshined only by your willingness to share it with the chammunity!

Thank you!

 

[kinyonga]

Thanks Kaizen!
I often "trip" over these articles looking for other things.
I think I chose unusual words to get to what I'm looking for and it "accidentally" ends up giving me interesting articles.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Won't we need to know both...what the things they eat in wild and what they eat in captivity...so we can compare them and make the captive diet contain the same nutrients that the wild insects contain.

Of course. The native bugs could/would be the baseline.

 

[DocZ]

I think there’s definitely some data about the nutritional facts of many of our feeders, there’s some data that shows we can manipulate the nutrition of a feeder with diet, there’s some (but not a lot) of data about some chameleon’s natural diet. I agree that data on the nutritional facts about their native prey along with data on what the prey is eating is a vital piece of the puzzle

 

[DocZ]

Man..... I could become a Madagascar native weed dealer if I knew what to grow. I’d make a killing off you guys

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Madagascar Kush?

 

[DocZ]

Madagascar Kush?

Exactly!