Almost a year later

Calval24

Calval24

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Well I have had Raptor for almost a year now. Hard to believe he was so little. I was the victim of a Breeder at a reptile show that sold him way too young! But to everyone's help on here I think he is happy and healthy now. It has been a long road with a lot of trial and error. Well here he. What does everyone think?!!
 
He's definitely a gorgeous boy <3. He has some interesting colors... do you know if he has anything in him other than ambanja? I am just wondering if he is a bit of a hybrid?
 
Great looking boy. Sometimes you get a diamond in the rough at those shows. Kinda looks like a cross. Love to have a side picture. Very distinguished colors on him. The eyes keep throwing me off
 
Andee said:
He's definitely a gorgeous boy <3. He has some interesting colors... do you know if he has anything in him other than ambanja? I am just wondering if he is a bit of a hybrid?
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Thank you!! Hybrid?!!! Idk. The guy that sold him to me said he was pure ambilobe. I feel like I was taken advantage of being new to panthers at that time. Oh well. Live and learn right?'!!!
 
Link said:
Great looking boy. Sometimes you get a diamond in the rough at those shows. Kinda looks like a cross. Love to have a side picture. Very distinguished colors on him. The eyes keep throwing me off
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What do you mean by side pic? I will get one as soon as I get home
 
Yes but the guy also sold you a baby that was far too young from the sounds of it. So idk how reliable he would be. Idk if he has anything else in him. I feel if he does at all, it definitely doesn't affect much other that colors. I wouldn't say he is pure ambilobe for sure, maybe for colors, but the distinctive nose he has is more like ambanjas
 
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Andee said:
Yes but the guy also sold you a baby that was far too young from the sounds of it. So idk how reliable he would be. Idk if he has anything else in him. I feel if he does at all, it definitely doesn't affect much other that colors. I wouldn't say he is pure ambilobe for sure, maybe for colors, but the distinctive nose he has is more like ambanjas
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He was definitely sold way too young knowing what I know now. He was so small he fit in a little deli cup. Like the small ones that salsa come in. I think we was at most 2 weeks old when I got him. Here is a pic of when I got him. Well if he is a cross I would like to know. Thank you for your input. I'm trying to be the best Cham keeper I can be. :)
 
Definitely a tiny little guy when you bought him, barely any meat on his bones either even though he was so young in my opinion he should have been a bit more filled out. Definitely lucky to have found you <3. Figuring out whether he is a hybrid is hard. SOOOO many of the locales look so similar. And they are kept the same pretty much. I think the more obscure locales, require a bit of tweaking and can be harder to breed, but you have less of an issue with that, when they are crossed. Either way he is absolutely drop dead gorgeous <3 I definitely prefer crosses of pures, but that's because of the huge amount of mystery that comes with them. But no matter whether a chameleon is a cross or pure (mostly talking about panthers here) they all end up beautiful in the end <3
 
The middle bar on him is looking more like a U than a Y from that pick. Definitely has the nose of a ambanja.I have 7 ambanjas not one i have scene with that many colors he's great looking though. I personally like to get them younger it's just harder to rear them. I always keep my babies for as long as I can fun day watching them grow
 
I am having a hard time remembering which is a y and which is a u? Wasn't ambilobe and ambanja locales y? When sambava supposed to be a u? Forgive me if I am wrong tried looking it up but failed epically at the moment. xD
 
Andee said:
I am having a hard time remembering which is a y and which is a u? Wasn't ambilobe and ambanja locales y? When sambava supposed to be a u? Forgive me if I am wrong tried looking it up but failed epically at the moment. xD
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U is usually sambava.y and I have seen I's in ambilobe and ambanja. Not an expert though
 
I personally am not a fan of the bright colored Chams, they are beautiful, just not for me, BUT his coloring are simply gorgeous! Like he's been airbrushed. THATS a nice, perfectly colored cham in my opinion.

Man was he tiny when you got him! And I thought mine is small!

You appear to be doing a great job with him.
 
Yeah a lot of hybrids from what I have noticed have duller resting colors in my opinion, but when the fire up it's an amazing contrast. (my male panther is usually dark and deep reds with forest greens, a small amount of light blue, and black. When he fires up he turns violent reds, bright yellows, and sunset oranges.. with pastel blues) I just look at those ones and say, who knew XD
 
Andee said:
Yeah a lot of hybrids from what I have noticed have duller resting colors in my opinion, but when the fire up it's an amazing contrast. (my male panther is usually dark and deep reds with forest greens, a small amount of light blue, and black. When he fires up he turns violent reds, bright yellows, and sunset oranges.. with pastel blues) I just look at those ones and say, who knew XD
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that sounds like some amazing coloring! do you have any pics??
 
Not any good ones of him firing... sadly the only time I could ever get him to reliably fire up was when he was in his teenage years. Even a few months above a year old he was not interested in showing off and was super chill. Even when I tried a mirror. Now he's blind (at the moment) and I don't think he notices much as far as that. I may be able to get him in his pajamas tomorrow which are similar to his fire colors.

I think I have seen him truly fire up... like 5 times his entire life? I have had him since he was 4 months, he is now 4 and some change.
 
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