Adenovirus and yellow fungus concerns

Geckoflora

Geckoflora

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Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but my questions are just about adenovirus and yellow fungus in general; at the moment, I don't think either of my chameleons are sick at all.

I babysat a baby bearded dragon for someone a little over a month ago. She had just recently come from a pet store, so I made sure to keep her in a small tank away from all of my reptiles for the few days that I had her. I was also careful about not handling my animals after handling her without washing hands first.

Today, I learned that her owner had taken her to the vet and she was positive for adenovirus AND yellow fungus. I haven't noticed any fungus spots or adenovirus symptoms for any of my reptiles, but I'll be looking them all over very thoroughly again just to be safe.

For anyone with experience with either of these things, I would really like to know if it's possible that my animals have contracted either of these and have not yet begun to show symptoms?

Would they be showing symptoms already if they had adenovirus or yellow fungus, or are they in the clear since it's been a month since I even had the sick animal in my house? I know yellow fungus is very contagious, but is adenovirus very contagious too?

I have two panther chameleons, two blue tongue skinks, and one leopard gecko. I'm mostly just looking for answers about the panther chameleons since that's what this website is all about, but if anyone knows about BTS or leopard gecko risks for adenovirus and yellow fungus, I welcome that advice as well!
 
CANV...yellow fungus...Nannizziopsis...
According to what I've read there are different species of CANV so only that species should be able to get that type of CANV fungus. Bearded dragons get N. Guarroii and chameleons get N. Dermititis (spelling?)...but it's still not clear if these fungal soecies can cross from one soecies to another...so heresa what I could find...
https://www.uamh.ca/Research.html
http://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1004367
Molecular Characterization of Reptile Pathogens Currently Known as Members of the Chrysosporium Anamorph of Nannizziopsis vriesii Complex and Relationship with ...
jcm.asm.org › content
Deep fungal dermatitis caused by the Chrysosporium anamorph of Nannizziopsis vriesii in captive coastal bearded dragons (Pogona
PDFwww.uamh.ca › NotInUse › Unused4 › 2...

Here's some information you might like to read...please keepmin mind that the exact soecies of CANV might not be indicated in these links if the predated the separation study...as I said above ...
Veiled chameleons...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16805090
Leopard geckos...
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0300985812465324
https://mafiadoc.com/veterinary-pathology-online_59f3d9ac1723dde94e866056.html

I only know a bit about adenoviruses...so I'm going to give you some links that might help...
Adenovirus...I did read one article that said adenovirus can jump species...but it didn't say from beardies to what.
There's a little bit of info here...scan down the right side....
http://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/veiled-chameleon
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Rep...Disease-Can-Be-Deadly-To-Your-Bearded-Dragon/
https://books.google.ca/books?id=7Ai4BKhi0VUC&pg=PA399&lpg=PA399&dq=adenovirus+bearded+dragons+species+specific&source=bl&ots=IPiBjvtOs3&sig=N4-27AFAnnQL-KBUDAI3l0T8ao4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjosKqZv8nXAhVU8WMKHfXwDjM4ChDoAQgxMAQ#v=onepage&q=adenovirus bearded dragons species specific&f=false
 
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I think you’ll be just fine, with the precautions you took. I think these infections are the result are more than just low dosages of exposure. I’m not an expert, but I did work under some reptile vets and used to breed bearded dragons, so read a lot on adenovirus. I also have read as much as can be found on CANV and have treated fungal infections in turtle shells, Chameleon skin (not CANV), and even fungus in a Chameleon’s leg bones. There has to be a certain amount of spores or virus present to constitute a threat, in many cases, though again, this is general information and not adenovirus or CANV specific, because I have not experienced them first hand.
With CANV, usually the infected chameleons are originating from crowded and unsanitary, stressful situations and this is thought to play a role. Do sterilize or dispose of any items you may have that came in contact with the bearded dragon and don’t expose your chameleons to them, before sterilizing.
 
I think the information above could argue for and against susceptibility. “Applied directly to abraded skin” and even then, only 60% of healthy veileds were affected. It is unlikely anything resembling those circumstances occurred with your chameleons, after contact with the bearded dragon. Relax and monitor, is all you can do, anyway, so take a deep breath and consider your odds as high as winning $5000 on a scratch off ticket.....possible, but most people never experience that.
 
kinyonga said:
People ask questions...I try to find information and post it and it's up to them to decide. At least that way they have some information.

BTW...I put the quote there because it mentions transmission through the air...better to be aware?
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I was only providing my interpretation of the information, not at all questioning the value of sharing the links. It was absolutely great imformation for the poster to read. I’m just framing the information to prevent misplaced panic and worry. Even if the bearded dragons and chameleons were in the same enclosure, sharing a sleeping bag, there’s not much to be done, but keeping as eye on things and since the original poster took wose precautions, the risk to her animals is fairly low. Since I don’t have direct experience, I extrapolated my opinion from the valuable resources you shared.
 
Thank you both very much for the replies and insight!

I appreciate the links, I'm still looking through them but it helps to get some more info. Especially on adenovirus since I've never really researched it before now. For now I'll just be keeping a close eye on my herps; I really hope it didn't end up transmitting through the air, that's a scary thought.
 
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