Add more Vit A & B to gutload

[nightanole]

My oustalet's Has been missing the kill lately on his dubia (yet some how can pick out the 3 crickets in the bucket of over a dozen dubia nyphs). As a precautionary measure i would like to up the vit A and B in the gut load, however sandra's ingredients that have high values of these are on the no no or use sparingly.

Currently the wet load is left over mustard/baby greens mix, with left over fruits (grapes,apple,mango,blueberry,green melon). Dry gut load is alfalfa,horse cookies(berry,barely, peppermint, no oats), highend corn free wild bird seed, thissel seeds, bug burger, and some uncooked brown rice.

I was thinking of adding some bee pollen, kelp, and stabalized rice bran, but those are not high in A and B.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Why do you think vitamin A is possibly an issue? It think it's not that likely, especially as you are using some great choices plus bug burger.
See: https://www.chameleonforums.com/my-cham-has-tongue-issue-80739/#post764105

Vitamin/nutrient imbalances are possible causes, but not the only ones.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/232-tongue-troubles.html
It sounds like you already gutload well, so its possible the tongue issue has another root cause.

Anyways, As for vitamin B, you have lots of choices:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/722-sources-b-vitamins.html

Dandelion leaves are a good source of vitamins, including B. Based on 100g raw leaves: 0.2mg thiamin; 0.3mg riboflavin; 0.8mg niacin; 0.2 mg Vitamin B-6; 27mcg folate
Alfalfa is another choice for B Vitamins. And there is thiamin in Sunflower seeds, wheat bran, oranges, spirulina. B2 riboflavin in most green leafy vegetables, fish, legumes, whole grains. B3 Niacin in cereals, legumes, seeds, green leafy vegetables. many pastas are fortified with B Vitamins. Bee pollen is a source of B vitamins. Spriulina and kelp have B vitmains. Yeast has B vitamins.

You could grind up a B complex vitamin, disolve in water, inject some into a roach.

If you want to up the Vitamin A, give your roaches a hard boiled egg or a slice of cooked red meat. This is probably on most people's "avoid" list but that doesnt mean it has to be "never" especially if you are only temporarily providing, knowingly with specific purpose.

Liver has high levels of Vitamin A and B12.

Many vitamin supplement powders also provide what you want to add.

 

[kndge9584]

Add more Vit A & B to gutload in this sites . vitamin a and b is a need the human energy solve for this situation

 

[fluxlizard]

Why don't you just dust prey with a little reptivite one meal every week or two. Oustalets aren't particularly sensitive like some of the montaine species are.

 

[nightanole]

After more experiments it looks like he cant "grab" dubia when powdered from the back. Even hand feeding he just pings them out of my hand. However he hits leg side everytime, and has no problem with the winged males.

 

[sandrachameleon]

After more experiments it looks like he cant "grab" dubia when powdered from the back. Even hand feeding he just pings them out of my hand. However he hits leg side everytime, and has no problem with the winged males.

Sounds like the dubia are holding on for dear life, or they have too much supplement on them.
Maybe put the dubia upside-down in a smooth container