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  1. Pickle-cham

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    "Long term consequence-) If an animal doesn't ingest enough oxalic acid to cause hypocalcemia, but does continually over time ingest the toxic plant (darn stubborn stupid animal), the crystalized calcium oxalate in the bloodstream gets caught in the kidneys who are trying to filter the blood...
  2. Pickle-cham

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    ...maybe veileds arent really affected but not immune to the raphides/crystal in plants because they clean tear the leaves and dont break down the matter. So minimal oxalate crystals are released compared to say when an animal eats plants for nutrition they usually break down the leaves by...
  3. A

    brasil heartleaf philodendron?

    Philodendrons earned the "toxic" label because the oxalate crystals in them can be (mechanically, not chemically) irritating to mammals and can cause calcium imbalances if ingested in large quantities. However, pothos are the exact same way, and they're a "veilied-tested" and widely used plant...
  4. DocZ

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    That’s from the oxalate crystals being released is my understanding
  5. K

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    @jamest0o0 said..."So maybe we should just say all plants that contain oxalate crystals are not known to harm chams"...that might be unsafe to assume....there might be other things in plants that contain oxalates that will harm a chameleon. Spinach has some bound oxalates and some unbound which...
  6. GoodKarma19

    Chameleon ate a peace lily leaf

    The only "toxic" compound found in peace lillies are oxalate crystals. As mentioned, this is found in pothos and many other recommended plants, and is an indigestible microscopic crystal that can cause some gastrointestinal upset. At least, this is the case in mammals - there is limited data...
  7. DocZ

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    I think this is a reasonable explanation for this. Many herbivorous and omnivorous animals will have bacteria that live in their gut that help process and increase bioavailability of certain plant nutrients. I suspect chameleons wouldn’t have as many of these since plants aren’t a major source...
  8. H

    brasil heartleaf philodendron?

    Awesome thank you! I have a bird’s nest fern that I can alternate it with to make sure that he doesn’t eat it too much, and I’ll check for bite marks. I’d leave the fern in there but it’s hanging right under the uvb
  9. BenjiTheCham

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    ...as with Pothos. I have gotten many people saying that philodendron are bad, and some saying it’s fine. But it seems like it should be fine because the part of philodendron that is toxic is also oxalate crystals. I’m pretty sure they are okay, but I figure I’ll get as many opinions as I can.
  10. MissSkittles

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    Perhaps veileds just like the taste of Pothos and other plants. While the calcium oxalate crystals may be abrasive when they eat them, is that any different than when we eat yummy things that shred our upper palates? If looked at from the same perspective, why do humans eat things such as Froot...
  11. jamest0o0

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    ...that knows a bit about plant toxins. I admit, I'm no expert on the subject, just a simple understanding. So pothos basically have oxalate crystals which are like tiny pieces of glass. My thinking is that chams digest so little of the leaf that they don't actually get much of this to irritate...
  12. BenjiTheCham

    Philodendron Cordatum sage for veiled?

    Tysm! I was really hoping that I could use it in my tank. I had read before how Pothos also has the oxalate crystals, and I didn’t know that’s what was poisonous in the philodendron as well. I’m going to take some cuttings of mine and put it into my tank
  13. jamest0o0

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    This was the inspiration for my original post
  14. BenjiTheCham

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    The oxalates will not harm your Cham. It’s recommended all the time for all species. It’s harmful to humans and animals (probably most mammals) but my understanding is that it doesn’t affect them at all, or does it? But clearly not enough to do much
  15. MissSkittles

    Veileds and plants

    ...My girls eat their plants a lot and I am yet to see any undigested plant matter in their poop. I was thinking along the lines of the oxalate crystals maybe having something to do with helping break down and digest plants. As I Googled to verify my memory of oxalate crystal form, I maybe found...
  16. Klyde O'Scope

    Plants for my enclosure

    Then I guess I'm covered, though it's not the tree version (and see below). Today I tried arranging the plants I bought for the enclosure, but it appears I may have been a little too ambitious—no way they'll all fit in there. Not shown are the mass cane (and 4 other dracaenas), the...
  17. jamest0o0

    Pothos toxicity, what's up with it???

    ...given and misunderstanding. That's why I said bring up the toxin, not the plant(which @cyberlocc you pointed out for tortoises). Oxalate crystals should have a physical sensation of burning, it's not like a chemical that some things are just immune to. Unless chams do not feel it or have...
  18. GoodKarma19

    ***The Third Official Enclosure Picture Thread***

    ..."Safe" is a relative term. Peace lilies are not true lilies, and the thing that gets them labelled as toxic is the concentration of oxalate crystals. This is the same stuff that makes pothos, a favorite in the hobby, "toxic". True lilies, such as Easter lilies and tiger lilies, are very...
  19. K

    Veiled killed his first live plant

    ...never showed that they died with renal failure. How much longer do you think yours will live without the pothos? Also...in humans, the loop of henele is one place calcium oxalate crystals form in the kidneys...chameleons lack the loop of henle....so I wonder what that means regarding oxalates?
  20. GoodKarma19

    Live plants for a panther chameleon.

    ...open! I play fast and loose with plants. I check the Pet Poison Helpline for toxicity results, and if the plant is clear (doesn't contain anything beyond oxalate crystals) I tend to use it. I avoid plants that have been known to cause skin irritation or have a lot of sap, but otherwise... :)
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