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YES! And we jabe xame tomthatncomsensus aleeady, we jist need tomreopen the denate necause somene whomeven did nit oay aztemtion tomthe danate in derail and even did nitmcjeck that imdeed citrus and almonds ARE in the by CF recommended gutload, chimesnin and destroys the consensual debate fir...

This is well possible but noone ever made this cimparison Noone ever stjdied the foodmof feeders Noone took samoles And noone said: this component we can find in this plant ans therefore we sunstitute it with it Noone ever

O do not agree in full with this I agree with this statement THEORETICALLY, under the comdition that WE PROVIDE ENOUGH UV. And this, we are almost never sure about!!! Because we csn not control the amount of UV, the chameleon gets. Itnis enough that the chameleon is 2in too dostant from the...

Which ai ansolutely agree on and we have even defined it as a special term HQF While HIGH QUALITY FEEDING IS imcreasing theirnnutritiinal value, The gutloading, however is meaningless and potentially harmful

You miss the most important point Amd this is the definition of GUTLOADING which you evidently mix up with the term FEEDING. I ANSOLUTELY AGREE with tje statement that: “ The scientific papers listed above say that nutritional value of feeders does increase depending on what is fed” But readnit...

Inhabe the impression you have not read the thread at all Exactly this I am stating so why do you argue against stating the same? (That once digested, it was Not a gutload but foodmof feeders, it is fine) I talk about the GUTLOAD IT MEANS ABOUT THE CONTENT OF GUTS THAT IS SUPPOSED NOT TO BE...

Well, if thisnis not true, then itnis a lie. i do notmumderszand why you destroy the constructive and fair denaze here With such strange lie, that can be immediately proven to be false just looking at the gutloading chart you have here on this pages. I am shocked

We talk about diet and not about clothing. I umderstand that your attempt is metaphorical nit it is so heavily misleading that the message is lost. And harmfuľmess I jabe explicitely defined and gave examples somitnis unfair timteist my wirds here this way. Butnak am used ti this from you with...

I agree And show me where I state that it has to be exact same. I have never said that. We can find similar but we do not even try. If they eat arabian grasses, we gmcan give them american sikilar grasses, but not Papaya and nutternut squash, as this is far from similar.

D3 poisoning xan cause renal failure and this can cause gout Very likely, this hapoened Plus What temoeratires day, nihht and. Asking śot dl yoj jave? Hlw dl yoj jydrate and keep humidity Levels?

I suggest HQ FEEDING OF FEEDERS https://www.chameleons.info/l/feeding-feeders-versus-gutloading/ It would Be very practical if we could Agree not only on the meaning nut also of A good Definition of the terms

Thank you for the kind translation of the sense I really want to make the lide if captive chameleons great and Not miserable. This is why I try to be polite but steict ifnit Comes Tk this mission...

Nut I would be Deeply and genuinely interested What is the real percentage of the components of your “guloading products” Whether in the sense of the debate theh are thiught as gutload or feeding feeders. What research and scientific base are your products rhat you produce and sell on the...

I have no idea what you mean.

I Improved rhe spelling already, sorry, midnight here and my eyes get tired a bit

Absolutely correct conclusion, thank you for rewording a bit but precisely my thoughts

I am drastic simplifyer, believe me...

Rhe reason why you do not find it is because itnis so delicate that is autolyzes within the week or so whicb it stays in the intestine, which has many quite aggressive substances in it. Make a simple experiment Put it for a Week just into water with some vinegar. It will also disappear. But it...

We know that they can not digest plant Matter. We have douens of doeect amd undirect proofs. I am abainst testing of things that do not make sense from the a Natural point of view. I am militantly against doing tests how alľes are good for chameleon digestion. It is unethical and wrong...