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I agree And show me where I state that it has to be exact same. I have never said that. We can find similar but we do not even try. If they eat arabian grasses, we gmcan give them american sikilar grasses, but not Papaya and nutternut squash, as this is far from similar.

D3 poisoning xan cause renal failure and this can cause gout Very likely, this hapoened Plus What temoeratires day, nihht and. Asking śot dl yoj jave? Hlw dl yoj jydrate and keep humidity Levels?

I suggest HQ FEEDING OF FEEDERS https://www.chameleons.info/l/feeding-feeders-versus-gutloading/ It would Be very practical if we could Agree not only on the meaning nut also of A good Definition of the terms

Thank you for the kind translation of the sense I really want to make the lide if captive chameleons great and Not miserable. This is why I try to be polite but steict ifnit Comes Tk this mission...

Nut I would be Deeply and genuinely interested What is the real percentage of the components of your “guloading products” Whether in the sense of the debate theh are thiught as gutload or feeding feeders. What research and scientific base are your products rhat you produce and sell on the...

I have no idea what you mean.

I Improved rhe spelling already, sorry, midnight here and my eyes get tired a bit

Absolutely correct conclusion, thank you for rewording a bit but precisely my thoughts

I am drastic simplifyer, believe me...

Rhe reason why you do not find it is because itnis so delicate that is autolyzes within the week or so whicb it stays in the intestine, which has many quite aggressive substances in it. Make a simple experiment Put it for a Week just into water with some vinegar. It will also disappear. But it...

We know that they can not digest plant Matter. We have douens of doeect amd undirect proofs. I am abainst testing of things that do not make sense from the a Natural point of view. I am militantly against doing tests how alľes are good for chameleon digestion. It is unethical and wrong...

yes the ones eaten by cagtle are Ok Plus all species of corn are technically grasses too

Juncaginaceae Contains about 34 species hypical for Marsands amd none of them occur in Africa, Because if its circumboreal distribution. It is very roigh amd jaedly anyone would get an idea to get to seamps and feed it to chameleon feedesrs :-( But this is not what was the debate about

This is just the first of the reo main recommemdations Rhe one about gutloading is missing

Give me chance to understand please What is your point?

Grass on contrary to the listed gutload IS NATURAL So, for millions of years, chameleons are jsed to feed on grasshoppers that jave eaten grass and are used to badle it. Whole none of the liszed veggies, even containing potent poisons rjey were used to digest/non-diggest/tollerate/pass through...

Nee pollen gets digested and its. Emefkts have ňbeem discussed many times If you still need some feed, here we go The Mystery Of Bee Pollen Unleashed Bee Pollen As Supplement And Remedy The Secret Of Manuka CHAMELEONOCULTURE: Chameleon Captive Husbandry...

Csn you please read the tjread? O jabe explained it several times. Yes, the less importsnt problem is that we mix jp these two terms which mean something completely different and itnis importsnt Nut the main issue is If we leave undigested “gutload” In tje intestines of feeders Chsmeleons...

Please that is Meant serious? If grass and al the other vegetation is so same, si why we people csre so much and jave so much variety of what ee eat and why we mever ever eat simoly grass? Necauee theim utritional value and content of nitrients and ballast and poisons and digestanility is...