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Hello I have a male veiled chameleon his names Kronos. Im trying to find out bout how old he is n a couple of other problems hear lately . I got him from petsmart when he was 4 inchs long around the beginning of november 2011 n he's a foot now. And the problems here lately are he's had this white crust around his nose that's kinda thick he has the usual white deposits out his nose like normal from over supplement but this diff from that it builds up round each nose hole its not wet its all dry and flakes rite off Idk if its the same thing or not. The other thing is he was a darkish green until his last shed bout 2 to 3 weeks ago n now he has a yellow stripes on his side anyways he's usually green w yellow in his cage n I've changed his bedding on the bottom of his cage b4 n nothing ever bothered him n I changed it 2 days ago n now he's been a dark brown like the color of his vines he sits on n as soon as I pick him up he turns green or yellow or if he climbs out of his cage n watches outside he turns green n yellow just its here sudden now he's turning brown. N tonight he started sitting up right in his cage w his head pointed up is that normal? He don't have extra mucas n don't wheeze n he's active so id appreciate your help thx

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Erik88 said:

Hello I have a male veiled chameleon his names Kronos. Im trying to find out bout how old he is n a couple of other problems hear lately . I got him from petsmart when he was 4 inchs long around the beginning of november 2011 n he's a foot now. And the problems here lately are he's had this white crust around his nose that's kinda thick he has the usual white deposits out his nose like normal from over supplement but this diff from that it builds up round each nose hole its not wet its all dry and flakes rite off Idk if its the same thing or not. The other thing is he was a darkish green until his last shed bout 2 to 3 weeks ago n now he has a yellow stripes on his side anyways he's usually green w yellow in his cage n I've changed his bedding on the bottom of his cage b4 n nothing ever bothered him n I changed it 2 days ago n now he's been a dark brown like the color of his vines he sits on n as soon as I pick him up he turns green or yellow or if he climbs out of his cage n watches outside he turns green n yellow just its here sudden now he's turning brown. N tonight he started sitting up right in his cage w his head pointed up is that normal? He don't have extra mucas n don't wheeze n he's active so id appreciate your help thx

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What supplements are you giving him? The reason he has yellow stripes now is because he is growing into his adult colors. They usually lose most of the green that they had as babies/juvies after shedding a few times and start getting more colors.

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male veiled chameleon age idk ive had him almost 4 months
only handle him every now and then to clean his vage or hand feed him from time to time or put him back in his cage if hes out b4 his bed time
feed him 6 large crickets a day
use reptical d3 once a week on 4 crickets
drip technique i mist twice a day or usually turn on the humidity machine a couple times a day to help keep up humidity levels n i hardly see him drink so dont know if hes a shy drinker or wat he will watch it drip and go after it time for time.
never been tested for parasites idk where theres even a reptile vet around here at and fecal is bout the size of my pinky with white

cage glass sides with screen top its a hexagon shape bout 3 feet high by 2 wide from side to side
lighting im not sure wat ever petsamrt has for them but i have a basking lite during the day and a uv florcent lite or watever it is called iys the long skinny compact kind that has 3 or 4 loops goin up n down and at nite the purple nocternal light from petsmart
and lights switch at 8 both times a day
basking spot is round 85 90 floor is round 70 got 2 thermometers top n bottom nite is around 70 75 humidity is runs round 60 to 75 i have a misting machine
use live plant i forget what its called but its like a small tree i checked into what there favorites are and its one of them i just cant think of the namei
its always been by the window but the 4 out of 6 sides are covered up w black felt so it dont see to much motion in the house but top of the cage i have a hole cut out with a vine running out to the window where i hsve s small grouping of vines with leafs stuck to the window where he goes back n forth through out the day n really seems to enjoy watching out side the window top of cage is bout 5 feet off floor n i live indiana ohio line bout in the middle of the state in indiana hes been doing great until this recently thats got me worried. another thing is i hear n see bout them always hissing and getting territorial he never does that unless he cathes a glimps of his reflection in the glass or window or if i get him by a mirror idk if they are always suppussed to be that way when ur in the cage or interacting with them or not buying took the live plant out today to put it in potting soil customers the forest mulch bedding was starting to kill it off with no soil
Sorry the pics are side ways Idk how to fix them on here

Here's some information I hope will help you with supplementing, etc.....
Appropriate cage temperatures aid in digestion and thus play a part indirectly in nutrient absorption.

Exposure to UVB from either direct sunlight or a proper UVB light allows the chameleon to produce D3 so that it can use the calcium in its system to make/keep the bones strong and be used in other systems in the chameleon as well. The UVB should not pass through glass or plastic no matter whether its from the sun or the UVB light. The most often recommended UVB light is the long linear fluorescent Repti-sun 5.0 tube light. Some of the compacts, spirals and tube lights have caused health issues, but so far there have been no bad reports against this one.

A wide variety of insects that have been well fed and gutloaded should be fed to it.

Since many of the feeder insects we use in captivity have a poor ratio of calcium to phosphorus in them, its important to dust the insects just before you feed them to the chameleon at most feedings with a phos.-free calcium powder to help make up for it. (I use Rep-cal phosphorus-free calcium).

If you also dust twice a month with a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder it will ensure that your chameleon gets some D3 without overdoing it. It leaves the chameleon to produce the rest of what it needs through its exposure to the UVB light. D3 from supplements can build up in the system but D3 produced from exposure to UVB shouldn't as long as the chameleon can move in and out of it. (I use Rep-cal phos.-free calcium/D3).

Dusting twice a month as well with a vitamin powder that contains a beta carotene (prOformed) source of vitamin A will ensure that the chameleon gets some vitamins without the danger of overdosing the vitamin A. PrEformed sources of vitamin A can build up in the system and may prevent the D3 from doing its job and push the chameleon towards MBD. However, there is controversy as to whether all/any chameleons can convert the beta carotene and so some people give some prEformed vitamin A once in a while. (I use herptivite which has beta carotene.)

Gutloading/feeding the insects well helps to provide what the chameleon needs. I gutload crickets, roaches, locusts, superworms, etc. with an assortment of greens (dandelions, kale, collards, endive, escarole, mustard greens, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet potato, sweet red pepper, zucchini, etc.)

Calcium, phos., D3 and vitamin A are important players in bone health and other systems in the chameleon (muscles, etc.) and they need to be in balance. When trying to balance them, you need to look at the supplements, what you feed the insects and what you feed the chameleon.
Please note that various supplements have various amounts of D3 and vitamin A and so some can be given more often than others. The idea still is not to overdo the fat soluble vitamins like D3 and prEformed vitamin A.

Here are some good sites for you to read too...
http://chameleonnews.com/07FebWheelock.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200605020...Vitamin.A.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200406080...d.Calcium.html
http://www.uvguide.co.uk/
http://web.archive.org/web/200601140...ww.adcham.com/
If you can't access the sites above that have the word "archive" in you can do it through the WayBackMachine.

Kinyongas post addressed your supplements. Thats all very good information that you NEED to know. You dont need the night bulb. It could be keeping him awake at night. As long as it doesnt get lower than 50F in the room hes in, hell be fine. The nite time drop is good for them. Im unsure how old he is, I dont have veiled experience. Maybe 8 months would be my guess. The bedding should be taken out. It can be ingested and cause harm, as well as harbor bacteria. Its also just an uneeded pain IMO. Unless the whole bottom of the viv is planted. Im not exactly sure on your description. I would also throw more sticks in there for him to climb on.

The bedding is like a mossy kind of bedding i'm see him go down n look around n eat a couple pieces every now n then n shoots back up his vines. Idk wat could I do to get him to drink more I wanna build a new cage that's mostly screen but wouldn't it be hard to keep it humid in there? Its the same kind of bedding u see in all the reptile cages at petsmart n how old will he start changing a bunch if colors do u know? N thx for the help I appreciate it

Petsmart is ignorant. You should never base your care on there opinions, as theres is a bias one. They are in it for profit. If hes eating it, it can make him sick, or cause impaction and possibly death. Offer him fruits and vegetables, cut up in small peices. Veilds eat small amounts of vegetation, which is why he might be trying to eat the moss. To get him to drink, spray him for longer. Make sure his dripper is dripping onto as many things in the cage as possible, leaves especially.

Yes I agree petsmart is when I first got him they told me he was a she n to feed him 2 or 3 crickets every other day n I started looking up information n found out she was a he n the feeding info was all wrong I've tried that veggie thing n he wont go for it so I trick him w wax worms ill feed him one n why he opens n closes his mouth why he's eating that ill sneak a piece of apple or banana in his mouth then he will start to catch on n stops. Wat should I do for the bottom ? Cuz if I take the bedding out it will be all glass? Sorry for all the? This is the first chameleon i've had I've only had another reptile once an iguana but it fried itself on a heat rock.

Ahh, well that creates an issue. You can break the glass and put another drillable material in there, drill through the glass, or use hydro balls and such. The latter is pretty much the same as what you have now. I would leave it bare. Or plant it with the hhydroballs. I leave exposed dirt in my setups, but if my chameleon was eating it I would cover it or take it out.

Wats hydro balls?

Erik88 said:

Wats hydro balls?

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Look at this:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/update-my-xanth-rango-73096/

Ok I will try that thx alot

Thia is the darker brown color he's been the past couple of days n nothings really changed in his environment that much since Ive had him only time hr seems tobturn green n yellow is when its in a situation where it be stressed Like if it sees its reflection