I know, I was thinking of what Jann B used looks good but she also has that inside a patio enclosure. This is going to be for sunning outside and stuff. Not a permanent cage but one where I can transfer him for some outdoor time. I dont want to have to sit there every second and watch him. i want him to be safe and I am worried about those little tiny Lizards getting in if the screen holes were too large and him eating them and choking. I have had a few of those (anoles) in my patio and he has gone right for them when he spotted them on the screen. Also, like you said, wasps, bees, stuff like that I dont want getting in. I dont plan on using lights outside, this is going to be strictly for sun coming through the screen. thanks for the input.