what are the signs for metabolic bone disease

[kelly261]

I have a 4months old female veiled cham
she is doing great.. well i think she is doing great i feed her cricket and dust them every other 3rd feeding with calium with d3 and a mutli vitamin.
I just started to feed her super worms and phoenix worms this week and she LOVES them... stoped eating so many crickets cuz she wants more worms lol

but i was looking at pics of mbd and my cham kinda looks like she might have it... what are the signs of this?

 

[FooL111394]

Hmmmm...My cham has that back leg bulge as well. He is about a month older than yours.

 

[beenpanced]

I'm no vet but your cham looks to be in pretty good shape. MBD cases do have bulges on they're ankles but they look much worse and often they are also associated with bowed legs.

 

[sandrachameleon]

...i feed her cricket and dust them every other 3rd feeding with calium with d3 and a mutli vitamin.

Hi kelly
Do you ever dust with a Calcium that does not contain D3? It is generally recommended one do so, once a day. And use the Calcium WITH D3 only every other week or so. (I am assuming that you are using a UVB bulb or that your cham has access to direct sunlight.) The problem with using the Cal w/D3 every third feeding is that it can build up in their system, hurt organs.
I suggest check this link and search this forum on MDB and Calcium with D3.
http://www.ukchameleons.co.uk/calciummbdd3.htm

 

[Justin Carl]

Your chameleons seems fine.
What type of lighting are you using? Be specific.
How often are you dusting with a phosphorous free calcium with D3?
How often are you dusting with a phosphorous free calcium without D3?
Be carefull with those worms, they can be addicting.
They will sometimes refuse to eat anything, but superworms, phoenix, or waxworms
Also, phoneix worms can be hard to digest.
They have a very tough outer skin, so you may see whole, undigested, phoenix worms pass through.

 

[kinyonga]

Signs of MBD include but are not limited to....
a soft, pliable, rubbery jaw, a bendable casque, tongue dysfunction (can't shoot it all the way out), legs that are not straight or are broken, inability to lift the body off the branches or other surface that the chameleon is sitting on, shaking...later...loss of appetite, lethargy, egglaying problems...and eventually death.

This is extreme, but you will get the idea from this...
http://www.adcham.com/html/veterinary/mbd-fractures-kramer.html

Your chameleon looks quite healthy. Why do you think it might have MBD?

 

[beenpanced]

Yeah you need to really watch it on that Calcium w/ D3. Check out this thread. Be warned, LOTS of info here.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/supplementation-mbd-1-a-2451/