Visible worms in Poo

chequepoint

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Quick things out of the way -
Screen Cage, Linear UVB, Temps are ~85 in the basking spot, low 70's in the room, Mistking system going 3X a day for 5 minutes each, no substrate, Gutloaded crickets, supers, silkies when I have them, etc.

Cham was sold to me as 3 months old at the beginning of August, so he should be 7 months old or so now.
For the last month or so he hasn't been quite himself, he eats but not aggressively (seems bored with crickets as of late, but I can usually get him to eat 2-3 super worms over the course of a day.) His color has been darker most of the time. Just one of those gut, something isn't right feelings. Also, his urates have been orangish, despite my watching him drink several times a day.

Normally I clean his poop out every morning, but I had a crazy last couple of days and missed a few. Well low and behold when I went to take care of it today, there are visible worms crawling in the poo. They look like fruit fly larve, sort of.

There are gnats and fruit flies around, always seem to be.. So it could be them laying eggs in the poo? Don't know.

Looking around for the best herp vet in Nashville area.. but its sunday, so that will have to wait until tomorrow.

Ordered Rept-aid from Northwest Chams, figured it can't hurt.
Was planning on getting some hornworms to help with the hydration bit.
I'm assuming panacur is in order.

Need to start on a regiment of cage scrubbing. Bleach or Steam Cleaning?

Also, I have a girl panther, 5 months or so.. in a cage right next to his (They can't see each other). No feeders ever cross cages, etc. Nothing from one cage goes in the other. Im assuming I should at minimum put her on the cleaning regiment as well.
 
If these were my animals i would get fecals done on both, and treat them accordingly. But to answer your q about worms, they could be ff larve but a fecal will be the best way to answer your next course of action. If it were only a couple of days since you cleaned poo, it could be parasite because it takes about a week for ff larve to appear after the flys have laid their eggs in the matter.
 
No pictures.. got it out of there pretty quick, wasn't thinking. I'll get a fecal done in the next few days, but have some panacur and am going to administer .1cc to the male, and bleach out the cage of both. I'll start the reptaid treatment when it arrives.

A few weeks ago I got some crickets and superworms from petsmart instead of my petstore because I was in a hurry... makes me wonder.
 
Chequepoint

Almost any vet should be able to do the fecal. You can even get a sample the day prior and refrigerate (not freeze) it in a cup or baggie. A non-reptile vet might struggle with dosage rates, but I would thing they would have ready access to that info, even if not familiar with it.

As for oral dosing. Usually they will say "Ahhhh" when you grab them behind the head firmly. Not fun, but it works :) If still keeping the jaws shut, tap gently on the top of the head while holding firmly. The opportunity may be brief. Good luck with all.
 
Thanks jim, I Got it in, not a huge problem. Just came at him with it and he opened right up.
All I have to do to find a good vet is make a phone call tomorrow. Like I said, its sunday.
 
As for oral dosing. Usually they will say "Ahhhh" when you grab them behind the head firmly. Not fun, but it works :) If still keeping the jaws shut, tap gently on the top of the head while holding firmly. The opportunity may be brief. Good luck with all.

neither of my guys will do that.

*ill have a pic in a min.. i kinda found not a worm in the poo, just in the cage near it, looked more like a larvae or grub*

did it look kinda like this?
 

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that one was attached to a leaf, it looks more larval then worm... .... ill end up getting a fecal done anyways now.
 
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