Update on my 2 veild girls

[KShook]

Hello All,

My 2 Veild Girls still have yet to lay their eggs..one is just HUGE with eggs that are visable..and the other you cannot see the eggs but I can feel them..she's a big girl though 206 grams. I thought I would post a couple pics of them..and let me know what you think? Also..when would i know if there egg bound? and at what point should I bring them to the vet if they dont lay there eggs!? Please Help! These girls mean everything to me!

 

[CHAMpion]

Unfotunately, i don't know much about answering your questions but i had to share my expression when i saw the third picture. WOW i have a 8 month old female and yours could eat mine

 

[KShook]

ha your funny..the first 2 pics she's weighing in at 206, the second two pics she's about 115..there big healthy girls..thsy just wont they there eggs...I'm getting really concerned! But I know they can go up to about 3 months or so to lay them..

 

[KShook]

All suggestions are welcome!! Please Help!

 

[ChrisnLisa]

Are they in the same enclosure?
Still eating and drinking?
Roaming the cage?
Do you have a laying bucket in their enclosure?
Have they been mated or are these eggs infertile?

 

[jannb]

If you are not trying to breed; if you keep them cooler and only feed them every 2 to 3 days, you never have to deal with eggs........after this time. Check out this link below. Jann
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleo...le-veiled.html

 

[KShook]

No there in different enclosures, visual barriers are up, both are still eating, the larger one randomy roams to the floor, since ast week, but i only saw her do that once..my little one has not..laying bins are in both cages. And Yes we did mate them.

 

[ChrisnLisa]

When were they each mated? Do you have towel or sheet draped around the one who is roaming?

 

[KShook]

They were mated around December 15th..There both in individual enclosures, and yes towels are around the cages...Were only by them in the morning for misting and drippers then at night when I get home for misting, drippers, and feeding..other than that there left alone from 7am-6pm

 

[ChrisnLisa]

If they are still eating I might not worry just yet, but I would take into account their normal behavior and daily habits. Once they are declining food and still have not layed it may be of a concern. Keep them hydrated and you may want to consider offering liquid calcium orally. Do you have a vet? if not do you have one lined up in case something should arise?

Lisa

 

[kinyonga]

They should have laid the eggs by now if they mated in mid-December.

 

[ChrisnLisa]

As kinyonga has said, they should have laid. If they were my girls they would have been to the vet already. Here is something that happened to us recently. Fortunately it turned out o.k. in the long run, but in most cases probably wouldn't have. I would get a wellness check along with an x-ray done.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/follicular-stasis-help-19666/?highlight=follicular+stasis

What type of laying bin are you using? Size and contents? What are their temps?

 

[KShook]

one laying bin is about 10 inches the other is about 7 inches..Substrate is moist beach sand, temps at night are low 70's high 60's day time is 75-85 basking is 90. Also I want to ask you what did the Oxytocin do for your female? Does it help them to lay there eggs? We've been giving our girls Calcium oraly once a week. I'l have to make an apt for them for this weekend. but the more info the better!

 

[ChrisnLisa]

Oxytocin induces labor. It forces their body into having contractions. Seven inches isn't deep enough in my opinion. Something is off if neither of your girls have laid. I would get an x-ray done so the doctor can try to see if their is some sort of obstruction. But again, probably not the case in both. I think the sooner the better for these girls. Have they laid at all prior to this? fertile or not.

 

[KShook]

yeah, they have not gone down to the floor..no scratching at the bottom of the cage..Nor are they roaming or restess..and have not gone into there laying bins?! They bask all day in peace in quiet. Nope..this is the first time for both of them. I'll put deeper laying bins for them..I'm going to wait and see if they start roaming..in the next week or so..if not I'll have to bring them to the vet..Maybe I have can them both induced..to help them with laying their eggs...?

 

[Brad Ramsey]

I agree with having x-rays done.
Whoever told you they can go 90 days is (in my opinion) wrong.
At this point I would question if they are even carrying eggs.
The fourth picture looks full of eggs ... the other three ???

-Brad

 

[kinyonga]

First you need to determine if they are in follicular stasis or have eggs before you try inducing them. If they are in follicular stasis I think the only solution is to spay them.

 

[BocaJan]

I don't think I would wait another week. 90 days is waaaay too long. There is something going on.

 

[KShook]

Yes I'll most def. make an Apt. Thanks everyone for your help! I'll keep you updated!

 

[ChrisnLisa]

Have your girls been to see a vet yet?

Lisa