Tree in outdoor enclosure

thewise21

Member
Usually do a bunch of research but final decision usually made through info from this forum. Just finished up my outdoor planter/ enclosure for my Tito. 2 biggest hobbies are bonsai and chameleons. Plan on incorporating both hobbies into this outdoor cage . Looking for some possible experience with trees that are safe and best for chameleons. FL chameleons have a huge list and thinking about an elm or river birch. Any one out there have any experiences with actual trees
 

Klyde O'Scope

Chameleon Enthusiast
IIRC, FLchameleons list is plants safe for dogs & cats—not reptiles/chameleons.
These lists are chameleon-safe:
https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/
https://www.madcham.de/en/pflanzen-fuers-terrarium/
https://www.chameleons.info/l/safe-and-unsafe-plants/
https://www.chameleonschool.com/safe-plants-for-chameleons/

Hardwoods should be OK, as would any of the "centerpiece" plants on: https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/
They'll grow fairly large outdoors.
Another possibility (check growing requirements) is Madagascar Jasmine.
 

thewise21

Member
IIRC, FLchameleons list is plants safe for dogs & cats—not reptiles/chameleons.
These lists are chameleon-safe:
https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/
https://www.madcham.de/en/pflanzen-fuers-terrarium/
https://www.chameleons.info/l/safe-and-unsafe-plants/
https://www.chameleonschool.com/safe-plants-for-chameleons/

Hardwoods should be OK, as would any of the "centerpiece" plants on: https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/
They'll grow fairly large outdoors.
Another possibility (check growing requirements) is Madagascar Jasmine.
I have several bonsai actual tree species. River birch being one I am thinking bout using.
 

Sonny13

Chameleon Enthusiast
Had the same idea for indoors, however couldn´t find a descent large bonsai. I´ve now used the Schefflera tree, that one grows really great (kind of Bonsai look) and is Chameleon save. An option for you would be the Olea Europaea Bonsai, I use the branches of the regular olive tree for the indoor setup.
 

thewise21

Member
Had the same idea for indoors, however couldn´t find a descent large bonsai. I´ve now used the Schefflera tree, that one grows really great (kind of Bonsai look) and is Chameleon save. An option for you would be the Olea Europaea Bonsai, I use the branches of the regular olive tree for the indoor setup.
Got the shceffalera inside. Put a hibiscus outdoor and thinking about a river birch I got
 

snitz427

Chameleon Enthusiast
I have several bonsai actual tree species. River birch being one I am thinking bout using.

i use riverbirch branches in my enclosures. I have ficus alii in my outdoor enclosures. Ficus benjamin, etc would be good. I want to find a new tree, too - that can stay outside through my winters.
 

Klyde O'Scope

Chameleon Enthusiast
River Birch seems like a good candidate; it's a hardwood, and has tolerance for moisture.
The only thing I'd want to check out is the essential oils. They may be fine—I'm just not a chemist.
The essential oils derived from leaves, inner bark, and buds of B. nigra are mostly composed of eugenol, linalool, palmitic acid, and heptacosane with many more compounds in smaller concentrations.[12] The combined essential oils are phytotoxic to lettuce (Lactuca sativa) and perennial ryegrass (Lolium perenne) seedlings. They have also demonstrated insecticidal, nematicidal, and antibacterial properties.
 

thewise21

Member
i use riverbirch branches in my enclosures. I have ficus alii in my outdoor enclosures. Ficus benjamin, etc would be good. I want to find a new tree, too - that can stay outside through my winters.
I read on Fl chameleons list that elms and birch trees are ok
 

Klyde O'Scope

Chameleon Enthusiast
I read on Fl chameleons list that elms and birch trees are ok
They are, but I understand that list is derived from pants safe for cats & dogs—not necessarily reptiles.

These lists are chameleon-safe:
https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/
https://www.madcham.de/en/pflanzen-fuers-terrarium/
https://www.chameleons.info/l/safe-and-unsafe-plants/
https://www.chameleonschool.com/safe-plants-for-chameleons/

For wood, the general rule of deciduous/hardwood=good; conifer/evergreen/softwood=bad works for all but a few exotic woods.
 
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