Some Concerns...

chameleonfan11

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Chameleon Info:
My Chameleon - Daryl is a male veiled chameleon who has been in my care for about a month now. He is an adult but his exact age is unknown
Handling - I handle him once or twice a day, ONLY when he shows signs of wanting to be out or if I just need some cham emotional support. Whenever I come home he paws at his cage or comes out of hiding and I typically never have to grab him, he just tries to climb on my arms and head. Vet said theres no underlying illness, “he’s just weirdly friendly”
Feeding - I feed him Dubia roaches, crickets, and occasionally super worms as treats. I usually rotate feeders every feeding, giving him 5-6 crickets per feeding, 3-4 roaches per feeding, and 1-2 superworms a week. I feed every other day and replace his water in his fountain every week (its filtered). I load them with reptical calcium without d3 everyday, and with d3 about once a month. My feeders are fed whenever the food runs out and are watered daily in a drown-proof container (feeder food is flukers high calcium roach/cricket diet)
Supplements - I use reptical calcium supplements without d3 every feeding, with d3 once a month.
Watering - I use a fountain that drips water, recycles it back through a pump and keeps dripping down. I mist about 3 times a day to keep the plants dripping wet but if the humidity is to high I’ll skip a mist every now and then. I used to use the dripper but it caused a massive flood and he would get VERY angry at it. While I’ve never seen him use the fountain, his urates look healthy so I’m not very concerned.
Fecal Description - Very big doods, his recent urate was slightly yellow, mostly white. He hasn’t been tested for parasites in my care, he was by the rescue, but I will re-test soon.
History - Daryl was rescued from a park, presumably an escapist but nobody claimed him. Was brought in to a reptile expert who rehabilitated him for about 3 months or more where I bought him from, his age and history is completely unknown.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - I use a screen cage; 24x24x48 with a custom lining to keep about a foot of substrate and LECA for my plants.
Lighting - For lighting I use a T5 5.0 UVB by zoomed, natural light, a white plant light, and an overhead room light. Lights on when the sun comes up, lights off at 9pm most nights, I try to keep a tight schedule but sometimes work needs me to stay late.
Temperature - My cage floor sits at 70-75°, very top sits at 75-80° Lowest overnight temp is usually 65° and up. I have 2 digital thermometers to measure.
Humidity - Cage floor sits at 50-55%, very top sits at 40-45%. I mist 3 times a day, and I use a hygrometer to measure.
Plants - I use live plants such as Hibiscus, majesty palm, Ficus, and pothos.
Placement - My cage is in the corner of my room on a window. There is a fan on the other side of the room, but it doesn’t affect the humidity/temperature of the cage. It is currently sitting on the floor but I’m working on building a table that has a drainage pan at the bottom so I can start using a dripper again.
Location - I am located in Washington, very cold in the winter, very hot in the summer. Tons of rain.
Questions and Concerns:
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⁃ Estimating my chameleons age
⁃ Is my husbandry fulfilling to him
⁃ How worried do i need to be about feeders getting lost in his cage
⁃ How do i know if hes staying hydrated if i never see him near his drinking fountain ⁃ What are better alternatives to the little dripper or a fountain (i do not have drainage and had a flooding issue in me previous cage)
⁃ Is it okay to have his feeders next to his cage and visible to him
⁃ Why is he so “clingy” to me? i know reptiles dont feel affection, but if i set him down anywhere he follows me like a dog and is almost always trying to be near me
⁃ How can I keep my plants alive longer with his rein of terror? (Eating and ripping off branches) Or should I just settle with repotting every now and then?
⁃ Should I be worried about aggression or stress towards my crested gecko/dogs (they are never out together, and are never housed together, i just worry about potential stress because him seeing the dogs is inevitable)

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The Big D looks like around 2 years old.

Setup looks good.

Lost feeders are fine. As long as two crickets dont fall in love you have no issues.

Dont worry about seeing him drink. Most of mine are closet drinkers or just dont drink period. As long as urate isnt orange you are fine.

I would not put feeders near the cage if he can see them move.

For plants, you can get a chip clip and put human salad on it for him to munch on, in hopes to spare the real plants. Males tend to not defoliate as much as the females.
 

The Big D looks like around 2 years old.

Setup looks good.

Lost feeders are fine. As long as two crickets dont fall in love you have no issues.

Dont worry about seeing him drink. Most of mine are closet drinkers or just dont drink period. As long as urate isnt orange you are fine.

I would not put feeders near the cage if he can see them move.

For plants, you can get a chip clip and put human salad on it for him to munch on, in hopes to spare the real plants. Males tend to not defoliate as much as the females.
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Poor guy, lucky someone found him and give him love!

Your little man looks really well fed, I'd watch for signs of obesity. It can sneak up, and they're prone to gout; which deforms their little mitts, making it hard for them to walk/grip. (Not saying he's obese, just something to watch in your chams.) This is a good article about it: https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-medical-obesity/

For the vitamins he should be getting his D3 once a month, and a multivitamin once a month. For example give him D3 on the first and his multivitamin on the fifteenth. The most recommend multivitamin is repashy calcium plus LoD, or this reptivite. The multivitamins have things that the others don't, like vitamin A which helps their eye sight. The Repashy can be used in place of the vitamin D (the LoD part means low vit D), so you'd use it twice a month instead.

Chams are secret drinkers, you won't see it happen often, or at all. If you start to see orange in their urate you'll know they're dehydrated.

Does the window open? Does the sun shine into it? I also live in the North West. 🙂 I'd worry that in the winter, the cold could drop the temperature next to the window. Or If the sun shines on it for too long, it could get too hot.

I also have a dog, who my chams see frequently. I built their stands so that they're raised 3ft off the ground, so they feel nice and safe. I put the dog in another room if I have them out for an extended amount of time. Neither of my chams seem bothered by him, and he's trained to ignore them. He's also a fairly small dog.

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Looks like your guy is in good hands now!😍 You scored with a friendly one too!
 
For the vitamins he should be getting his D3 once a month, and a multivitamin once a month. For example give him D3 on the first and his multivitamin on the fifteenth. The most recommend multivitamin is repashy calcium plus LoD, or this reptivite. The multivitamins have things that the others don't, like vitamin A which helps their eye sight. The Repashy can be used in place of the vitamin D (the LoD part means low vit D), so you'd use it twice a month instead.
This looks like what I'm currently doing besides the multivitamin, I'll definitely incorporate that!! My dogs are usually in another room so this makes me feel better. My bedroom (where my chameleon stays) is always shut and the dogs only come in once a week. The window doesnt open, and it is shaded so I believe barely any sun hits it during the day! Thanks a bunch for all of this helpful advice :))

Also, for the obesity I was definitely wondering about that. He has a some thickness to the area just before his feet. Not to crazy, but noticeable. It has been going away subtly in the experts care and mine. I had to train him onto dubias and crickets because he only ate superworms, I suspected the previous owner only fed him treats :oops: I'll keep a careful eye on his diet.
 
Hey there welcome to the forum. I am going to jump in here on a few things and specifically per the supplements. The correct information for a Veiled would be phosphorus free calcium without D3 at all feedings and then use a multivitamin such as Repashy calcium plus LoD or Reptivite with D3 two times a month say the 1st and the 15th. Supplements should always be lightly dusted on the insects just prior to feeding the cham.

I prefer the repashy calcium plus LoD version as it does not overly coat the insects. These two multivitamins have D3 and vitamin A in it which a Veiled should have 2 times a month. You would stop using the calcium with D3 that you have and replace it with this.

Go ahead and reduce his feeding. He is most definitely a mature male. They will start packing on the grams and become obese quite easily. Take him down to 2-3 insects every other day if you want to stay on this schedule. Or 4-5 feeders every 3 days. Right now he is getting too much for him being older.

For your UVB double check your distance to the branch directly below it. It needs to be 8-9 inches away from it to put him in the correct UVI level.

For flooding. You need to add a drain pan. You can do this pretty simply by just getting a hot water heater drain pan from lowes or home depot. Or even amazon. Get a plastic one and they typically come in a 26x26 size. then you wet vac out the water in the bottom. Remove the dripping plant. These are known to grown bacteria and not recommended for chams. Once you have the drain pan you can use a plastic solo cup with a few tiny pin holes in it. Put ice cubes in the cup and place on the top screen of the cage away from the lighting so it is dripping down on plants.

At some point this boy had a thermal burn to his spikes on his back. You can see where they are missing. This area may have issues releasing shed. Keep an eye on it as you do not want the shed to build up.
 
phosphorus free calcium without D3 at all feedings and then use a multivitamin such as Repashy calcium plus LoD or Reptivite with D3 two times a month say the 1st and the 15th. Supplements should always be lightly dusted on the insects just prior to feeding the cham.
Yup! this is what I do. Also, I did mention that a drain pan isn't feedable at the moment but I am working on one.

Also the cage that he is in in that photo was a temporary one day cage. His actual cage is the one pictured.
 
I prefer the repashy calcium plus LoD version as it does not overly coat the insects. These two multivitamins have D3 and vitamin A in it which a Veiled should have 2 times a month. You would stop using the calcium with D3 that you have and replace it with this.
I really appreicate this!!!
 
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