....saved her life

[Chameleon Nation]

I had a female Mitsio that was 5 weeks along and digging various holes. She pushed out 1 egg then left her hole and the egg laying bin. She sat on her branch and did not move for days. Her eyes became sunkin in and were shut for about 2 days. Finally it was time to take her to the vet. My vet discussed the possibility of egg binding and a possible operation, but the chances of her recovering was slim. I told him to give her some liquid calcium under the skin because the oral dose that I gave her was not effective. I then asked about a follow up Oxytocin shot in the morning. The next morning after the shot I took the approximate 15 min. drive home, put her back into the enclosure, and she immediately dropped out these conjoined eggs. She remained on that one branch and dropped out the rest of the clutch. She is doing good. Drinking and eating normally again. The conjoined eggs had created a blockage. Without the timed calcium and Oxytocin injections I probably would have lost her.

 

[Syn]

Congratulations. Those are some very odd eggs!! I'm very glad they got out.

I would save that picture as a reminder.

 

[BocaJan]

WOW, what a story. She is so lucky to have you as a friend. I do hope you saved the eggs and didn't toss them. How many did she drop?

 

[Chameleon Nation]

I put those 2 along with the others in the incubator. She dropped 26 in total.

WOW, what a story. She is so lucky to have you as a friend. I do hope you saved the eggs and didn't toss them. How many did she drop?

 

[Syn]

Oh wow if that one is fertile.. oh man I wonder what could happen.

 

[BocaJan]

Probably the shell is just stuck together, I wouldn't think that the babies inside are stuck together. I guess we will see if the eggs make it to hatching. Keep us posted. There have been others that have had pics of eggs like this, but nobody ever said what the outcome was.

 

[Miss Lily]

Well done on saving her! Other keepers may well not have been so alert to the situation. I was terrified of Lily getting eggbound (she's my first and I didn't know what to look for when it was laying time). Lily laid a couple of joined eggs, but hers were very small, yellow and quite squishy. They were infertile.

 

[chameleon97]

Probably the shell is just stuck together, I wouldn't think that the babies inside are stuck together. I guess we will see if the eggs make it to hatching. Keep us posted. There have been others that have had pics of eggs like this, but nobody ever said what the outcome was.

if the babis were conjoined.... what would you do? kill them or let them live like that? i would feel soooo bad to kill them, but i would feel soooo bad letting them live

 

[Syn]

To be honest if you could get it to live it could be worth a lot of money, you know how conjoined animals are always on the news and stuff because it's so rare, etc.. But then I'm sure people would want to do tests on it etc. I say if it's HEALTHY let it live.

 

[OntarioLizardman]

wow thank god you saved her, good job man

 

[Nicodemayo]

Cham Nation- Happy ending there, and props to you taking appropriate measures. Id be curious to see what happens to those two eggs. Obviously, half of the shell looks to be calcified and the other half not, but let me tell you something interesting that happened with an egg of mine that looked like one of those. One of my female ambilobes laid a clutch and its due to hatch in about 3 months. The one egg that looked like that broke diapause and went about 4 months in until recently i checked on them, and i guess the shell couldnt handle the tension of the swelling and growing embryo and when i opened up the container, I saw the thin end blew out and there was a bloody dead embryo hanging half out.

 

[jannb]

Great story. So glad you were able to save her!!!! Jann

 

[Chameleon Nation]

Conjoined eggs

I have had a few sets of conjoined eggs in the past. In every case only one of the two survived. The other died immediately after the first one came out. In this case the ends of these two are very yellow and a bit squishy, so I don't really have any hopes for these ones. I will however leave then in the incubator until they go moldy. Here is a pic of another set of conjoined eggs where only the one baby came out and survived. Instead of coming out of the opposite end it came out of the conjoined end.

 

[ciafardo 4]

cham nation i had this happen but with a veiled last winter not just two eggs about 12 all conjoined unfortunatly i lost her glad your lady made it! By the way what causes this is it just a defect the shells seem to bond as oneand have you ever seen more than two i haven't but then ive not seen more than a few hundred of my own eggs i mean my chams eggs

 

[addicted]

Thank God she's OK! Good work getting her into the vet, sounds like your timing was perfect

 

[reptimom]

She is certainly a lucky girl to have such an observant owner. One thing I have learned over the years, and having many animals, is that when their behavior changes suddenly, there is somthing wrong! Especially if they are not eating. good call