Rescued Veilds, not sure what to do.

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bighog85

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Hey there,

I just had a couple veilds kind of dumped on me through our herp society by a guy that could not take care of them. I have never had these before and was wondering how you all feed them. They look pretty thin to me and anytime I walk in the room they just try to hide so I can't get them to eat out of a bowl like I have seen people do before. I am feeding dubias and apparently that is what they have always eaten. Should I just put the roaches in the cages and let them get em on their own? I suppose nature doesn't feed them with a bowl huh? I have a lot of questions and I can't even think of all of them right now. Anything that you all would tell a new owner would be greatly appreciated. I am very experienced with reptiles, just not these and I know they have very specialized care. I have a male and a female in their own screen cages that are 2x2x4. They each have a heat bulb and a curly uv bulb on top. Let me know what I need to do, I am a willing learner. Thanks!
 
Welcome to the forum!
Curly uvb bulbs are discouraged and we recommended 18" Linear tubes. Reptisun 5.0 Linear Tube 18" are best.
For the basking light all you need is a normal 60 watt bulb.

Why don't you fill out the "Ask For Help Form". Its stickied in the "Health Section" That will help us tell you what you need to do.

As far as feeding, you can "Free range" by just letting the crickets, dubias, etc. loose. Or you can "Cup Feed" This would be putting a cup (not clear) in the chams cage (hooked on a branch) and filling that with food so he can eat from there.
 
Welcome to the forums and to cham keeping...its an awarding addiction!

This is the best resource you can read regarding veiled chams and their husbandry from feeding, lighting, plants, cage set up etc :)

http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/

As far as feeding Dubia are good but you should always feed a variety of feeders (crickets, superworm, silk and horn worms) and gut load them well....carrots, kale, apples, yams, dandelion greens etc.

Here is the how to ask for help sticky that Ellron has posted...fill it in and post some pics :)

https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
 
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Hello new chameleon owner. So where are you located? We in The USA often do cages a little different than they do in England. Since you said screen cages I will assume you are USA. Everything you want or need is readily available from our plan sponsors. We will all be happy to get you and your chams on the way to a great life together. Are your new veileds male & female, or both one sex? Do you have any idea how old they are? After a bit more info and hopefully pictures we can help you fine tune your husbandry.:)
 
I'd just like to thank you for taking those chameleons on. I can tell they are already better off with you.

You might want to check the thread on basic husbandry stickied at the top of this forum. It will give you the information you need.
 
Check around..maybe "search"...there are loads of threads on this. Some are just fine and nothing to worry about. It's just easier to say "no" now until all providers have worked out the kinks.
 
Ellron said:
Curly uvb bulbs are discouraged and we recommended 18" Linear tubes. Reptisun 5.0 Linear Tube 18" are best.
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Why 18 inch? 24 inch work just as well and if he has the cages next to each other, he could actually just use a 4ft bulb with just 1 fixture instead of 2. I have a 24in bulb on each of my big cages.
 
serenitystarlite said:
Why 18 inch? 24 inch work just as well and if he has the cages next to each other, he could actually just use a 4ft bulb with just 1 fixture instead of 2. I have a 24in bulb on each of my big cages.
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I use a 48" bulb in a double fixture, one side is UVB other side is a plant light. Works great.
 
laurie said:
Hello new chameleon owner. So where are you located? We in The USA often do cages a little different than they do in England. Since you said screen cages I will assume you are USA. Everything you want or need is readily available from our plan sponsors. We will all be happy to get you and your chams on the way to a great life together. Are your new veileds male & female, or both one sex? Do you have any idea how old they are? After a bit more info and hopefully pictures we can help you fine tune your husbandry.:)
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Alright here are some pictures of the enclosures and the animals. As you can see I have one male and one female. I was told that they are about a year old. The cage with the taller plant in it is the females and I am assuming that I will need a taller plant in the males enclosure too. That is just the one that he came with. Do I need any special lights for the plants to stay alive or will the uv lights do that? Also, I have heard that I need to provide a sand box of some sort for the female to lay eggs in. Is that correct? ANYTHING that I need to do I will do to get these guys going again. Should I provide a substrate on the bottom or will the plastic piece be fine? I will go get the proper lights today. What is the best way to mist? Do I need a misting system or will doing it by hand a couple times a day suffice?
 

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You're going to need to put a lot more plants in the empty cage. Do a forum search on laying bins and you'll find some good info. Spraying by hand for several minutes several times a day will be fine. Adding drippers wouldn't hurt either. The plastic on the bottom will be fine.

If you don't already have them you're going to need digital hygrometers and thermometers to measure temps and you will need three supplements. A multivitamin, calcium with d3, and calcium without d3.
 
pssh said:
You're going to need to put a lot more plants in the empty cage. Do a forum search on laying bins and you'll find some good info. Spraying by hand for several minutes several times a day will be fine. Adding drippers wouldn't hurt either. The plastic on the bottom will be fine.

If you don't already have them you're going to need digital hygrometers and thermometers to measure temps and you will need three supplements. A multivitamin, calcium with d3, and calcium without d3.
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I can get the thermometers and hygrometers no problem and I have the supplements already for my other animals. The plant that is in the females cage is some sort of palm according to the sticker on the pot. Are these ok? They seem pretty ideal for climbing and hiding and the female hangs out in hers a lot. Unless I find something saying they are bad I think I will try to find another one of those.
 
I'm not sure, but I do know my veiled loves to eat pothos and hibiscus! Good for cover and climbing. :)
 
Ya I tried to find some of those plants but apparently they do not have them here in southern Idaho. I will keep looking but if not I will try to find another palm like the she came with.
 
bighog85 said:
Alright here are some pictures of the enclosures and the animals. As you can see I have one male and one female. I was told that they are about a year old. The cage with the taller plant in it is the females and I am assuming that I will need a taller plant in the males enclosure too. That is just the one that he came with. Do I need any special lights for the plants to stay alive or will the uv lights do that? Also, I have heard that I need to provide a sand box of some sort for the female to lay eggs in. Is that correct? ANYTHING that I need to do I will do to get these guys going again. Should I provide a substrate on the bottom or will the plastic piece be fine? I will go get the proper lights today. What is the best way to mist? Do I need a misting system or will doing it by hand a couple times a day suffice?
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What a totally refreshing post. You took on rescue chameleons and are willing to properly care for them. You don't know how rare that is.

The best I can offer is go read "rasingkittytheveiledchameleon" do a search just like that and you will get the thread.

For now get some plants in for the male, a bin for the female and you are started. Also they should not be able to see each other. There is a safe plant list on FL chams, one of the sponsors websites.

Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions.
 
schefflera, pothos, and ficus are the most commonly used plants, and should thrive under the uvb with just watering from misting. a good way to make a dripper is taking a dixie cup and putting a pinhole in it and just placing it on top of the cage. another good way to have a drip is a milk jug since it holds more. just make sure you wash it out before with a little bit of bleach :) welcome to the forum and kudos for taking them in
 
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