Reliable Incubator for Panther Eggs?
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jannb
Chameleon Enthusiast
Here's a thread from earlier: https://www.chameleonforums.com/nice-incubator-22355/
My daughter raises panthers and she just keeps the eggs in the closet.
My daughter raises panthers and she just keeps the eggs in the closet.
chams1
Member
Mine too. All my cham and gecko eggs just go up in the pantry (except my carpet eggs have stayed downstairs where it's a little cooler.) I bought a really big (40"x24"x24") incubator a while ago, but still have yet to use it.
Surfrat
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The Nose's I raised in the past were all incubated in the top of the closet. House stays between 72 and 75 most of the day so I guess it would be okay, jsut thought might be a little safer using something to actually maintain a constant temp.
I saw the fridge thing but it just seemed to fluctuate in temps as much or more then my house does!
I saw the fridge thing but it just seemed to fluctuate in temps as much or more then my house does!
Chameleonboy
Avid Member
I had experence with the hovabator and it was not bad. The hovabator can only heat and not cool. i would stuff them in the closet and forget about them for a little wile if I were you. Florida tends to have good teps. as long as your AC is not running all the time and it doesent get to hot or to cold you should be ok.
-Clemonde
-Clemonde
Chameleon Company
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In line with what the others have said ..
What temperatures are you trying to achieve such that you need to buy an incubator for panther eggs ? They are not "incubated" in the wild at anything other than ground temps 6-8" down, often in the shade, and lasting through two seasons. Has marketing gotten the better of you ? Maybe you can buy a waterfall too and save on shipping ....
What temperatures are you trying to achieve such that you need to buy an incubator for panther eggs ? They are not "incubated" in the wild at anything other than ground temps 6-8" down, often in the shade, and lasting through two seasons. Has marketing gotten the better of you ? Maybe you can buy a waterfall too and save on shipping ....
Chameleon Company
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A few more thoughts ...
Fluctuating temps of between 70-78 are fine, and will not adversely effect the eggs. They can handle slightly warmer on occasion with no apparent adverse effect, but I would make strong efforts to stay below 82 on the high-end fluctuations. Lower temps are fine too, but once you get into the 60's. you may influence a diapause effect that you were not planning on. It won't hurt the eggs, but without being under control, could throw your hatch duration times all in a tizzy.
A larger word of caution on deciding to opt for an "incubator" when suitable room temps are available somewhere in the house. Incubators can malfunction, and when they do, temperature fluctuations can happen fast. Your eggs can be poached before you even had a chance to order "over easy". House temps usually are more stable when things go wrong, thus giving you more time to fix a malfunction if the house heating or A/C goes on the blink, like setting the eggs in a large cooler until things are fixed. The incubator manufacturers may not like you, but your chameleons and wallet will
Good luck.
Fluctuating temps of between 70-78 are fine, and will not adversely effect the eggs. They can handle slightly warmer on occasion with no apparent adverse effect, but I would make strong efforts to stay below 82 on the high-end fluctuations. Lower temps are fine too, but once you get into the 60's. you may influence a diapause effect that you were not planning on. It won't hurt the eggs, but without being under control, could throw your hatch duration times all in a tizzy.
A larger word of caution on deciding to opt for an "incubator" when suitable room temps are available somewhere in the house. Incubators can malfunction, and when they do, temperature fluctuations can happen fast. Your eggs can be poached before you even had a chance to order "over easy". House temps usually are more stable when things go wrong, thus giving you more time to fix a malfunction if the house heating or A/C goes on the blink, like setting the eggs in a large cooler until things are fixed. The incubator manufacturers may not like you, but your chameleons and wallet will
Good luck.
Surfrat
New Member
What temperatures are you trying to achieve such that you need to buy an incubator for panther eggs ? They are not "incubated" in the wild at anything other than ground temps 6-8" down, often in the shade, and lasting through two seasons. Has marketing gotten the better of you ? Maybe you can buy a waterfall too and save on shipping ....
I don't know about marketing or waterfalls, but it was really just a question of what most were doing nowadays since it's been about 8 years since Ive had eggs. Apparently the closet method here in Florida is still the way to go. Thank you.
Chameleon Company
Avid Member
Surfat,
When you go to a public forum asking about "incubators", it is no longer just what you intended, but what information any reader can take from any post. As you can see from the responses, many others are not working with incubators, and no one is making an argument that they are a good thing for chameleons in general, although situations will vary. In most cases, they are to be avoided, or if you want to truly manage your eggs, you would be looking for something to cool them below most ambient house temps so as to induce a deliberate diapause. And it just isn't Florida where the closet is a good thing, it is just about every state. As an aside, many more northern hobbyists have what most of us lack in Florida, a basement, which increases their range of options. There have also been numerous threads about this in the past here, but with every thread that asks a question already covered multiple times, there are new readers who are short on info, and I thank those regular contributors who continue to post what they posted on the subject weeks and months ago, in the interest of educating those who won't read past yesterday. To many of us who take the time to post here, it is not just about what the OP might want to know, but larger umbrella of concerns that are brought to the table with the topic. That was the spirit of my earlier reply. My sarcasm was meant as a prod to get the reader to think. Good luck with all incubations.
When you go to a public forum asking about "incubators", it is no longer just what you intended, but what information any reader can take from any post. As you can see from the responses, many others are not working with incubators, and no one is making an argument that they are a good thing for chameleons in general, although situations will vary. In most cases, they are to be avoided, or if you want to truly manage your eggs, you would be looking for something to cool them below most ambient house temps so as to induce a deliberate diapause. And it just isn't Florida where the closet is a good thing, it is just about every state. As an aside, many more northern hobbyists have what most of us lack in Florida, a basement, which increases their range of options. There have also been numerous threads about this in the past here, but with every thread that asks a question already covered multiple times, there are new readers who are short on info, and I thank those regular contributors who continue to post what they posted on the subject weeks and months ago, in the interest of educating those who won't read past yesterday. To many of us who take the time to post here, it is not just about what the OP might want to know, but larger umbrella of concerns that are brought to the table with the topic. That was the spirit of my earlier reply.
My sarcasm was meant as a prod to get the reader to think. Good luck with all incubations.
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Adamlaskis
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What about one is LLL reptiles has? Is good for chameleon? My house is cold(always :S) so I need Incubator.
Will LLL ''reptipro5000'' working?
Thank, and exuse my englishes.
Adam Laskis
Will LLL ''reptipro5000'' working?
Thank, and exuse my englishes.
Adam Laskis
lizardboy119796
Member
I have used the HovoBator for other animals, here is a very cheap one right here in the classifieds.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/hovabator-incubator-hatch-your-29766/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/hovabator-incubator-hatch-your-29766/
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Adamlaskis
Guest
I don't is like hovobator. I live insaide canada. I am from italy though. Does anypeople have some knolages to share in reptipro500?
Thank,
Adam Laskis
Thank,
Adam Laskis
lizardboy119796
Member
I am also from Canada
I loved the HovoBator for leopard geckos, but, you might be right, it might not be as good for chameleons, but, the reptipro 500, all I hear is that its an awesome incubator, its like a mini mini fridge, and has a thermostat, set them temperature you want, and it heats the inside of the incubator, and has a digital thermometre, go check it out in the classifieds, their should be some info on it.
Silverdusk
New Member
What temperatures are you trying to achieve such that you need to buy an incubator for panther eggs ? They are not "incubated" in the wild at anything other than ground temps 6-8" down, often in the shade, and lasting through two seasons. Has marketing gotten the better of you ? Maybe you can buy a waterfall too and save on shipping ....
Still rather harsh. I think the point, guidance and direction could have been accomplished with less sarcasm. I'm not trying to stir anything up Jim, heck I've bought a Nosy Be from you. However, when I read comments like that, it makes me wonder why someone might wish to purchase from you in the future, when you've basically just been rude to him. What did it actually accomplish?
rnara002
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Sale!! Very Cheap ...
Kleenex tissue- Buy one box get the other free.
For all the cry babies in the forum !
Some people are just tooooooo sensitive. Get over it ... stop wasting posts on this forum and buy some kleenex. Valued topics would be easier to search for on this forum if people would stop asking the same questions all over again.
Kleenex tissue- Buy one box get the other free.
For all the cry babies in the forum !
Some people are just tooooooo sensitive. Get over it ... stop wasting posts on this forum and buy some kleenex. Valued topics would be easier to search for on this forum if people would stop asking the same questions all over again.
Silverdusk
New Member
I wasn't crying and have no need to cry, but if you actually read the message, you'd understand that I was suggesting there is no need for such sarcasm when offering advise. I think it's quite funny that you responded with the answer you did about cluttering the forum, especially when you've done it yourself.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-many-inches-substrate-17965/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/female-clutch-question-26126/
My point is, we've all done it and that's part of what any forum endures.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-many-inches-substrate-17965/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/female-clutch-question-26126/
My point is, we've all done it and that's part of what any forum endures.
jagfan
Member
Well said! We are supposed to be here to help each other learn, help when there are problems, answer questions, and generally promote education about Chameleons to everyone new and old to the hobby/business of care and raising of these fascinating animals. There is no need to be sarcastic or cutting in any way in your reply, this will only serve to hurt or anger and is unnecessary. If that is the only way you can reply please don't, let's just try to keep things friendly the way they should be.
My answer to the original question, I'm using the incubator referred to in the second reply from Think Geek, my house is too cool in summer to keep eggs and I'm afraid it might be in winter. The eggs should start hatching in Feb. and so far all three clutches in it look very healthy. Temp. staying right at 74 no problems with it. Will keep posting updates about it through hatching
