New pygmys, needing help sexing them.

[Twitchet]

Hi all, Well, I picked up the second pair of pygs today-would love to know what you guys think as to whether they are male and female- I thought they looked both female ( or both male- not so good) but I'm thinking the tail on the second does look longer so a male? but I have never kept them before yesterday but yesterdays pair were noticeabley different to each other
1st one


2nd one - This one is puffy-- male or female- displaying or gravid?



Anyway- love to know what you think. Yesterday pair are called Oak and Olive, These are Ash and Apple.

 

[NHenn]

Great pictures! You have two females there. They don't show a different coloration when gravid like some other species so impossible to tell by color alone. I would say that the second female is gravid as she looks to be carry eggs in the last picture.

 

[Twitchet]

Hoo haa! If that's true I have myself a nice little group 1.3 - I put up a barrier in the middle of their 3ft viv so I could separate both pairs but maybe that can come down and they can have the whole area. I must watch the puffy one- It does shrink a bit but does remain quite round. I posed this question on another forum and aksed if you have a heavily planted viv such as mine and you have females laying , unless you see where they are digging then try and dig the eggs up- risking hurting the eggs and the viv how do you hope for offspring- Opinion was you can leave them to it and they wont cannibalise their young. I'd never stand a chance of fishing out the eggs without stripping the viv so can I leave them and hope to get babies? Cheers for your reply.

 

[NHenn]

Hoo haa! If that's true I have myself a nice little group 1.3 - I put up a barrier in the middle of their 3ft viv so I could separate both pairs but maybe that can come down and they can have the whole area. I must watch the puffy one- It does shrink a bit but does remain quite round. I posed this question on another forum and aksed if you have a heavily planted viv such as mine and you have females laying , unless you see where they are digging then try and dig the eggs up- risking hurting the eggs and the viv how do you hope for offspring- Opinion was you can leave them to it and they wont cannibalise their young. I'd never stand a chance of fishing out the eggs without stripping the viv so can I leave them and hope to get babies? Cheers for your reply.

Yes, leaving the eggs in the cage to incubate and then hatch isn't a problem at all and I've had plenty hatch this way. The adults didn't pose any threats to the offspring but once I noticed a baby in the cage I would remove it and place in its own and smaller vivarium just to be safe. If you check on the cage a few times a day you might even catch the female digging/laying so you can remove them but there are times that won't happen so don't worry about those eggs as they should hatch in the cage without any issues.

 

[Twitchet]

Wow, that's great news, Thanks, It will be a very exciting day to see a baby cham in there, guess i'm getting a bit ahead of myself though! Many thanks again for replying and helping me.

 

[Virgil1972]

Wow, that's great news, Thanks, It will be a very exciting day to see a baby cham in there, guess i'm getting a bit ahead of myself though! Many thanks again for replying and helping me.

Thats a good deal. Many chams for the price of one.