My Satanic Leaf Tail Geckos

ChameleonAyer

ChameleonAyer

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So I know these guys are harder to keep, but I really like them! I have seen them both drink and eat already, so I think they are off to a good start! Here are some pictures:

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-Amanda
 
Oh, the eyes on that second one are AMAZING! I've always wanted to try this species, too, but it's been a while since I saw one with those red eyes. Best of luck with them.

Actually, what is it that makes them more difficult than the other leaf tails?
 
Kent, I'm not sure why they are more difficult. That is just what I've been told. I think leaf tails are altogether harder to keep than most other geckos. I got really lucky with her. They were in a far back corner and she was in the bottom of the pile of deli cups. I saw those eyes and knew, then and there, I had to have her! There were only two pairs and I got the first pick! She was the only one with red eyes and red markings on her underside. I really hope they do well under my care! :)

Thanks for the compliments beeze and Kent! :)
 
Thanks Syn, I'm just very happy to see them acclimating. I've got them at 72 (F) right now and am attaching a computer fan to the top of the enclosure to help drop them temp to 65(F) tonight.

-Amanda
 
I wouldn't suggest doing that.

They need all the humidity they can get and that fan is going to remove the humidity and probably stress them out to the extreme.

Delicate creatures, they are. That's why I haven't gotten any, yet.
 
Very nice!

I don't think the fan is the best idea. Unless your ambient temps are already very very close to 65 just blowing warm air isn't going to cool anything that low. It might if everything was wet and stayed wet, but do that and you not only would have to be misting every 30 minutes you risk URI from too much moisture. Just cut your AC back that low and be done with it. Start saving for a window unit for this particular room if you don't wanna waste electricity.
 
Good pictures :)

The fan is blowing across the top to cool off the area not into the cage :)
 
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OK Rocky, you spray down a cage once and see how long it takes for the humidity to get below the satanic's required humidity (75%-85% at all times) w/ a fan. :rolleyes:

Even if Houston is more humid than AZ, that doesn't mean it's a tropical forest, eh?

Oh, and since you edited your post I guess I'll look like an idiot.

Rocky said:
Good pictures :)

The fan is blowing across the top to cool off the area not into the cage :)
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I don't remember the post ever saying where the fan was being directed? Psychic alert!
 
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Well the fans aren't blowing in the cage they are blowing across. I figured it couldn't hurt. My ambients are low 70's. I'm at my parents house till Tuesday, so this is only a temporary enclosure.

As for humidity this is what I got off a care sheet:

This is one thing I believe can become problematic. Many people I have heard or talked to insist on maintaining constantly high humidity, in the range of 75-100%. However, I do not strictly monitor the humidity in my cages anymore. I have found it is suitable to give one heavy spraying a day, but this must be at night. Remember, these are nocturnal animals, and if you spray during the day, sure the animals might wake up and drink a little, but by the time they are actually active at night, the majority of the water will have evaporated. Spraying will not only provide drinking water, but it will elevate the humidity and provide water for plants. At the same time, you do not want to over-water the enclosure, as it can lead to problems with your plants and mold growth. If you see mold growing in your tank, do your best to remove it. Chances are that the mold originated from fecal material that was not removed or dead crickets.
Humidity can be difficult to maintain in non-naturalistic enclosures (i.e. fake plants, paper substrate, etc.). If you choose to maintain a non-naturalistic setup, I recommend you add a water bowl to the tank and spray often. In such cases, one heavy nightly spraying may not suffice.

Thank you for the concerns, I just wanted to show y'all that I got! I'm really excited to have them because they truly are magnificent! :)
 
I'm sure everyone has their own "method" for satanics. There seems to be quite a bit of variability out there on keeping them.

I was originally told to mist them in the morning and let it "dry out" during the day/night. After misting, my humidity goes up to ~95%; the next day before misting, it's around 65%. So far so good :)

Good luck with your new phants!

Drew
 
Congrats on obtaining one of the most fascinating geckos you can find. Well, in my humble opinion of course. :p

Treat them like a nocturnal montane chameleon. They can live just fine in the 76-78 range where 79-80 is pushing their comfort zone. The humidity story with them is slightly over stated. I believe this is due to the saturation of more arid climate species in the hobby and compared to how leopard geckos can be maintained, these need to be soaked! :p

Martin's care sheet is one of (if not) the best you can find for captive care and breeding of phantasticus.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Luis
 
Good to see some keepers have chimed in! I am on the right track! :) Thank you for all y'alls wonderful comments and helpful words!!

-Amanda
 
Those guys are so cool looking!!!!

Ive spent the last 20 minuts looking at more pcitures and reading about them lol
 
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