It pains me to do this, but I think I need to find a new home for Larry.

Jonah S

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Between my new job and school schedule, I am finding that I don't have the resources to take care of Larry anymore. It is more a time constraint more so then anything else.

If there is anyone in the Tallahassee area that would like a male veiled chameleon that is about five months old, please post here or send me a PM. Larry is a chill little guy. He is territorial in his cage but he is very calm and cool when he is out of his cage.

Included will be Larry, his 18x18x36 enclosure, his lamps, supplies, pretty much everything that I have for him. If you would like to make a donation that is more than appreciated, if not that is fine too.


This isn't easy for me by any stretch. Larry came from a breeder that was treating him poorly and since then he has been growing and has been showing a lot of improvement. His last vet checkup went very well and he had no poor remarks. He is a little bit small for his age but he is steadily growing. I really want to see Larry end up in good hands. If you can take care of him and would like him, please let me know.

Jonah
 
I am so sorry to hear you have to let Larry go to a new home. You have done such a wonderful job with Larry. If you don't readily get a person in your area i am sure there people who could drive an meet you to get a wonderful veiled chameleon like Larry.

Please let us know how it goes and where Larry goes. I will pray for a wonderful home for him.
 
I face the same time crunch, is there no one that can help you??

if the lights are on the timer, all you have to do in the morning is a 1 minute mist fill up the dripper and then put in his crickets. is there no one that could help you out with a misting or filling up his dripper? have u thought of maybe a misting system?
 
I mist him twice a day and feed him twice a day, and to be honest, there is nothing wrong with the care I'm giving him. My dillema sets in knowing that I can't always run home to make sure he gets misted or fed. I have thought about getting a mistking but for the moment, my finances are tight. I know Larry is 'fine', I would rather him be in the hands of someone who can take better care of him so he can be 'excellent'. I really love the little guy and it isn't easy to think about parting with him, I just want the best for him.
 
I mist him twice a day and feed him twice a day, and to be honest, there is nothing wrong with the care I'm giving him. My dillema sets in knowing that I can't always run home to make sure he gets misted or fed. I have thought about getting a mistking but for the moment, my finances are tight. I know Larry is 'fine', I would rather him be in the hands of someone who can take better care of him so he can be 'excellent'. I really love the little guy and it isn't easy to think about parting with him, I just want the best for him.

you have a veiled right? mist them good in the morning, and once when you get home from everything you have done during the day. veileds can have a humidity as low as 20% during the day. and if you have a dripper going all day and feed him as desired in the morning.. then what is there to worry about? it sounds and shows that you realy love the little guy, and i dont think that anyone could give him the care and love that you are giving him right now. i realy dont think you have to give him up
 
You know, I think if you feel that this is the best thing for your chameleon then it is the right thing to do. I think it's very mature of you to put realize that the needs of your chameleon might come into conflict with school life. I hope you find someone who can take him for you.
 
you have a veiled right? mist them good in the morning, and once when you get home from everything you have done during the day. veileds can have a humidity as low as 20% during the day. and if you have a dripper going all day and feed him as desired in the morning.. then what is there to worry about? it sounds and shows that you realy love the little guy, and i dont think that anyone could give him the care and love that you are giving him right now. i realy dont think you have to give him up

On Mondays I don't get home until seven and on Wednesdays I don't get home until around ten. He gets fed and misted around 10-11 on those days. His mistings and feedings are fine on the other five days, it's not fair to him though to not have consistency. Even with a veiled being able to survive in 20% humidity, that isn't the best for Larry.

I have had some major plan changes for the future (plans changed within the last few weeks) and I may be leaving Florida within the next couple of years. I would still have the same problems with trying to work him into my life. Larry deserves more than to be "worked in" to my life. I don't want to part with him, I do want him to have the best possible life though - even if that means finding an owner that can supply his needs better.
 
You don't have to get rid of him. I wake up extra early in the morning, get dressed and ready for school so I can feed all chams and water all of them. I have a mistking and it's perfect for these types of situations. I also get home after practice after 8, and by that time my chams are already sleep.
 
On Mondays I don't get home until seven and on Wednesdays I don't get home until around ten. He gets fed and misted around 10-11 on those days. His mistings and feedings are fine on the other five days, it's not fair to him though to not have consistency. Even with a veiled being able to survive in 20% humidity, that isn't the best for Larry.

I commend your good nature and care for such an animal.
I can tell that you truly want the best for him and I'm not so sure that there are others that can do much better then you are right now.
Based on the above statement, you sound like you are doing a great job with him regardless that he might miss a misting or two each week.

Consistency is something they just don't get in the wild.
It doesn't rain each day or at the same times, and food can at times be scarce in some weeks, yet abundant the next week.
If anything you are providing quite a lot of consistency and the health of your animal should be well above most as a result.

Please also understand that your male will need to stop eating every day shortly.
I also feel that we all over feed our babies in general and if they go a day without food each week that it won't harm them in any way and can be quite healthy at the same time.

We all as keepers have missed a misting or two and some feedings.
I myself have two panthers that are still not hooked up to a misting system and they at times will miss a misting or three and are quite fine...I just give extra misting on the days I can and the results are that they are both healthy and doing well.

I'm sorry if I don't sound supportive of your idea to give away your veiled.
Its just that even with your change of plans, your animal will not suffer.
If anything you are able to provide both food and water on most, if not all days of your busy week...and that is far more then what mother nature does out in the wild.

I have had some major plan changes for the future (plans changed within the last few weeks) and I may be leaving Florida within the next couple of years. I would still have the same problems with trying to work him into my life. Larry deserves more than to be "worked in" to my life. I don't want to part with him, I do want him to have the best possible life though - even if that means finding an owner that can supply his needs better.

Plans can change a hundred times in the next two years...
I wouldn't get too scared about what may or may not ever happen.
I am not saying that they are not demanding, but do you truly feel like you have to fit him into your life right now?
You do realize that regardless of your budget, you can buy or build a cheap misting system and have even more freedom?
Imagine just feeding your guy before work or school and topping off your misting system bucket with water and your done for the day.

My point is that maybe you care so much for your veiled that you don't realize that you will never find anyone better to take care of him then YOU.
After all, we all have lives. We all are human. We all have jobs or school. Above all, we are far from perfect.
Why give him away to one of us fools? We are no better then you.

Maybe at this time it would be better to ask for ways to releave some time you have to spend like using drippers on the days your not home, light timers for the lights, and easy to breed feeders to keep costs down while you are on a tight budget?

I would take a day or two to rethink this, if I were you.
As long as you are NOT saying that it is getting too hard and just feel that you might not have the time, then I think you can do this and don't need to give him up.

Harry
 
I commend your good nature and care for such an animal.
I can tell that you truly want the best for him and I'm not so sure that there are others that can do much better then you are right now.
Based on the above statement, you sound like you are doing a great job with him regardless that he might miss a misting or two each week.

Consistency is something they just don't get in the wild.
It doesn't rain each day or at the same times, and food can at times be scarce in some weeks, yet abundant the next week.
If anything you are providing quite a lot of consistency and the health of your animal should be well above most as a result.

Please also understand that your male will need to stop eating every day shortly.
I also feel that we all over feed our babies in general and if they go a day without food each week that it won't harm them in any way and can be quite healthy at the same time.

We all as keepers have missed a misting or two and some feedings.
I myself have two panthers that are still not hooked up to a misting system and they at times will miss a misting or three and are quite fine...I just give extra misting on the days I can and the results are that they are both healthy and doing well.

I'm sorry if I don't sound supportive of your idea to give away your veiled.
Its just that even with your change of plans, your animal will not suffer.
If anything you are able to provide both food and water on most, if not all days of your busy week...and that is far more then what mother nature does out in the wild.



Plans can change a hundred times in the next two years...
I wouldn't get too scared about what may or may not ever happen.
I am not saying that they are not demanding, but do you truly feel like you have to fit him into your life right now?
You do realize that regardless of your budget, you can buy or build a cheap misting system and have even more freedom?
Imagine just feeding your guy before work or school and topping off your misting system bucket with water and your done for the day.

My point is that maybe you care so much for your veiled that you don't realize that you will never find anyone better to take care of him then YOU.
After all, we all have lives. We all are human. We all have jobs or school. Above all, we are far from perfect.
Why give him away to one of us fools? We are no better then you.

Maybe at this time it would be better to ask for ways to releave some time you have to spend like using drippers on the days your not home, light timers for the lights, and easy to breed feeders to keep costs down while you are on a tight budget?

I would take a day or two to rethink this, if I were you.
As long as you are NOT saying that it is getting too hard and just feel that you might not have the time, then I think you can do this and don't need to give him up.

Harry

i agree....very well put :)
 
I commend your good nature and care for such an animal.
I can tell that you truly want the best for him and I'm not so sure that there are others that can do much better then you are right now.
Based on the above statement, you sound like you are doing a great job with him regardless that he might miss a misting or two each week.

Consistency is something they just don't get in the wild.
It doesn't rain each day or at the same times, and food can at times be scarce in some weeks, yet abundant the next week.
If anything you are providing quite a lot of consistency and the health of your animal should be well above most as a result.

Please also understand that your male will need to stop eating every day shortly.
I also feel that we all over feed our babies in general and if they go a day without food each week that it won't harm them in any way and can be quite healthy at the same time.

We all as keepers have missed a misting or two and some feedings.
I myself have two panthers that are still not hooked up to a misting system and they at times will miss a misting or three and are quite fine...I just give extra misting on the days I can and the results are that they are both healthy and doing well.

I'm sorry if I don't sound supportive of your idea to give away your veiled.
Its just that even with your change of plans, your animal will not suffer.
If anything you are able to provide both food and water on most, if not all days of your busy week...and that is far more then what mother nature does out in the wild.



Plans can change a hundred times in the next two years...
I wouldn't get too scared about what may or may not ever happen.
I am not saying that they are not demanding, but do you truly feel like you have to fit him into your life right now?
You do realize that regardless of your budget, you can buy or build a cheap misting system and have even more freedom?
Imagine just feeding your guy before work or school and topping off your misting system bucket with water and your done for the day.

My point is that maybe you care so much for your veiled that you don't realize that you will never find anyone better to take care of him then YOU.
After all, we all have lives. We all are human. We all have jobs or school. Above all, we are far from perfect.
Why give him away to one of us fools? We are no better then you.

Maybe at this time it would be better to ask for ways to releave some time you have to spend like using drippers on the days your not home, light timers for the lights, and easy to breed feeders to keep costs down while you are on a tight budget?

I would take a day or two to rethink this, if I were you.
As long as you are NOT saying that it is getting too hard and just feel that you might not have the time, then I think you can do this and don't need to give him up.

Harry

Very well said Harry.
 
Jonah just something else for you to think about. How can you be sure that the person who gets Larry will care for him at all? They may just want the cage and set up. That is a really nice set up if someone needs it and gets it for free and they could just sell Larry on Craig's List. I hate to sound as if all chameleon keepers are not like you and I but you need to realize a lot of people have very little to no morals. If you were a person who is trying hard to provide for your cham then getting the set up you need and the added money for selling Larry could look pretty good. Sorry but you do need to consider this also. I don't think Larry is in a bad place with you at all.
 
Jonah just something else for you to think about. How can you be sure that the person who gets Larry will care for him at all? They may just want the cage and set up. That is a really nice set up if someone needs it and gets it for free and they could just sell Larry on Craig's List. I hate to sound as if all chameleon keepers are not like you and I but you need to realize a lot of people have very little to no morals. If you were a person who is trying hard to provide for your cham then getting the set up you need and the added money for selling Larry could look pretty good. Sorry but you do need to consider this also. I don't think Larry is in a bad place with you at all.

I totally agree with Harry and Laurie. You also have to keep in mind that some people do not think to highly of veileds.
 
I totally agree with Harry and Laurie. You also have to keep in mind that some people do not think to highly of veileds.

This was something that I just spoke about with Laurie on the phone.

Its not that veileds are bad in any way. Its just that they are so common amongst the chameleon world, that someone on Craig's list will just keep the cage and sell off the animal.
Or wind up selling both the cage setup and the animal for an easy $100.
It happens every day, and I see it all the time.

If anything this forum is a bit safer in that most people here will at least try to find a good home for the little guy.
If by chance you must sell or give away your animal and you can't use the classifieds, then maybe I can help.
But also understand that this means you might have to ship everything and to insure that the new keeper will keep and care for the animal, you would have to request an adoption fee.

Again, just something to think about.

Harry
 
I certainly appreciate all the time and effort all of you have given with this topic. I tend to have a habit of over thinking things and I think I heard what I needed to hear. I definitely care about Larry and I will hold on to him until I can't. Thanks again everyone for your insight and guidance.

Jonah
 
Great to hear that you plan on keeping Larry for the time being. Nobody is better to care for a cham then their original caring owner. :)
 
Hey i am really glad to hear you are keeping Larry. If at some point you can't keep him we will all still be here to help find him a GREAT home. Just know we are here for you. You are trying and that is all any one can ask of you.
 
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