I need help for ID

[koray77]

Hi all need help for id ı bought them as a senegal chameleon but i think they are not a senagal chameleon and this box is only temporary.

 

[GabeCastro]

Looks like 2 female graceful chameleons, what makes you think they're not graceful/senegal?

They also look really thin/dry...

 

[carol5208]

the one of the floor of the box looks to be in bad shape. Is its eyes closed?. If so, that is not a good sign. It looks like it in the pic.?

 

[Trace]

Both specimens are exhibiting a low casque and and a typical broken white ventral line. They could either be Chamaeleo africanus (African Chameleon) or Chamaeleo chamaeleon (Mediterranean Chameleon) but I am inclined to believe they are the africanus because of the lack of occipital lobes (ear flaps). If you could get some better side view pictures (whole body and just the head) I could identify them for sure.

Edit to Add: Please offer solid reasons for to support your conclusion. It’s crucial that owners know the species of chameleon they’re trying to care for and not get confused by people making guesses.

 

[koray77]

@carol5208 yes somtimes when she is laying on ground or branch today is the third day what can ı do for them ??

 

[Chris Anderson]

As Trace indicated, these are Chamaeleo africanus. They lack occipital lobes and have an enlarged parietal crest and casque. You can also see that they are in rough shape and dehydrated. Make sure you are misting them appropriately, providing them with ample foliage to drink water droplets off, etc.

Chris

 

[kinyonga]

Note that the males have tarsal spurs too.

 

[koray77]

So you are saying they are not a chameleo senagalensis they are Chamaeleo africanus if it is where can ı find more detailed info and what is the diference between 2 chameleon.

 

[koray77]

There is a chameleon living in my country it is mediterranean chameleon they looklike mine ,i think petshop owner catch it or buy it from who catch them from mediterran it colud be ?The pic is not mine only this one just pic from google.

 

[kinyonga]

So none of the chameleons in the photos are yours??
If they are not yours we need to see a photo of the one you do have if you want a proper identity.

 

[koray77]

Noo first 4 chameleon are mine but the last one this one is not mine.

 

[kinyonga]

Okay. There are differences in the appearance of Mediterranean chameleons and Africans.

 

[Chris Anderson]

Chamaeleo chamaeleon (the species that lives in Turkey) have occipital lobes while Chamaeleo africanus do not. Your chameleons do not have occipital lobes and are Chamaeleo africanus. Their care is very similar to Chamaeleo calyptratus (Veiled or Yemen Chameleons). There are also a few people who keep them here on the forum. I would start another thread in the general discussion section asking for care recommendations for Chamaeleo africanus.

Chris

 

[koray77]

Thank you for id and thnks again for new thread.