Gravid female panther chameleon
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Lpsouth1978
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Yes, 5 weeks is actually great, if not a little longer than usual. My girl just laid her eggs at exactly 3 weeks. Most say 30 days is the average time before laying.
Tonystandman
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How old is she?
junglefries
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My ambilobes usually lay on the 28th day. It's like they had a meeting on the subject. Glad you waited until 14 months old. The proper age. Make sure to provide lots of water, Ca, and food after she lays. She may be a little sluggish for a couple days afterwards. Depending on the amount of eggs and their Ca they stole.
Dennis21
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Yes I did a lot of research before I got her. How many eggs do panthers lay. I have readed they only lay a small clutch she's not even that big.
Lpsouth1978
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Mine laid 26 her 1st clutch. I have heard of as many as 54 in one clutch. It is hard to say, temps, her health, and how much you feed her can all affect how many she lays.
Lpsouth1978
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30 eggs, give or take, seems pretty standard for a good clutch. Larger clutches can be dangerous to the female, so most breeders try to limit the number of eggs by controlling diet and temps.
I am not sure what you mean by saying most breeders incubate 6-6 months but that is risky business. Incubation times are mostly out of our controll. There are some ways that you may be able to influence them a little, but ultimately Mother Nature will decide how long the eggs incubate. Some may only take 5 months, other times they may take 12. You can never know for sure.
I am not sure what you mean by saying most breeders incubate 6-6 months but that is risky business. Incubation times are mostly out of our controll. There are some ways that you may be able to influence them a little, but ultimately Mother Nature will decide how long the eggs incubate. Some may only take 5 months, other times they may take 12. You can never know for sure.
junglefries
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Like the previous user said '26' seems to be the average number. Even one store owner was trippin' out when i said my last 4-5 clutches were all 26 eggs laid after 28 days. He had the same experience. Anything more is just too stressful. I read in one of my two cham books that in captivity they can lay larger clutches due to optimum conditions. Such that is not normal in the wild (i.e. constant food). Here is my parameters: wait until she is at least 16 months old (@ least 14 months), never more than 4 clutches before being retired, don't over feed or keep too high temps (can induce egg production), get them outside EVERY chance i have, keep records on all supplements and breeding, NEVER bother a female (too much stress). I once had an unknown pregnant jacksons drop an immature litter due to a move. I bought her to replace one of my females and she dropped them the next day. Will never know for sure, but am positive it was because of stress of moving. She made it obvious she was mad. I just didn't put two and two together at the time. Mine usually hatch between 6-7 months (more @ 6 than @ 7). Be wary of any clutch larger than say 32 or so, will be terribly stressful on your lady.
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Dennis21
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Thanx for all the advise I will only breed next year again. But females can retrain sperm and does that influence the eggs as well. How do you keep records of the breeding because I'm bussy doing selective breeding. My male has ambilobe,Maroansetra,nosy be,ambanja bloodlines while the female is 50% ambanja and 50% Ambilobe
junglefries
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I just use a composition notebook (school kids 'journal'). On the left the date, and to the right is what happened (i.e. which supplement i used, cleaned entire cage out, breeding dates, egg laying dates, how many eggs, date of laying eggs, etc...) Then you know when the second clutch should be laid (28-42 days later), if a big clutch requires extra Ca for your girl, or how many days until she may lay from breeding, who is the father and mother of which clutch. These things are important to some buyers and to yourself. You'll get it. Everyone's ways of doing things should be evolving and improving. Work smarter, not harder, right?
