Thanks. I used 63 zip ties and 37 sticks, as well as a bendable branch and two hanging pots as well as 2 nested pots. All 4 contain Pothos. Man, didn't know that took so long! I convinced my brother to help me with what I like to call "Advanced Where's Waldo" and she was sitting on a nearby cage staring st me while I stared art he cage for 10 minutes searching for her. She seemed amused.