FINALLY!!!!Mate!!!

[chameleoman]

i have been dying to breed and have been patient with it and now it paid off!!!!! my adult male and female veileds are mating as i type!!! im just so happy i didnt think i would ever be able to breed but i am i do have a question though the female stops mating walks away and the male follows her and they mate again but do i leave them in the same cage overnight?
thanks

 

[mychamtini112012]

Wasn't your female only eight months old.?

 

[chameleoman]

ok, if the male accidently cuts her with his nails what do i do?

 

[thephotoprincess]

is she bleeding?

 

[chameleoman]

Wasn't your female only eight months old.?

yes she is

 

[chameleoman]

is she bleeding?

no its just really really black on that spot

 

[thephotoprincess]

no its just really really black on that spot

that's fairly normal. it will go away in a few days.

As your female is so young make sure she is getting calcium as well as being well hydrated.

 

[chameleoman]

that's fairly normal. it will go away in a few days.

As your female is so young make sure she is getting calcium as well as being well hydrated.

i know i have been upping her mistings and keep her dripper on longer i have liquid calcium and vitamin A pills should i use the liquid calcium for now? and should i put any vitamin a drops on her crickets?
thanks

 

[thephotoprincess]

Regular calcium should be fine but the liquid can't hurt. I know of no reason to use Vit A at this point.

 

[chameleoman]

Regular calcium should be fine but the liquid can't hurt. I know of no reason to use Vit A at this point.

ok thanks for the pointers though

 

[ChamBust]

dang, 8 months ?? i have a jackson that's making 1yr this month but still beleive she's not old enough to mate. am i missing something here?

 

[KarmaChameleon1337]

dang, 8 months ?? i have a jackson that's making 1yr this month but still beleive she's not old enough to mate. am i missing something here?

It's really not recommended to breed earlier than a year. It's too harsh on them.

 

[Sticktongue]

Congrats good luck with them. Keep us updated!

I dont see any reason really not to breed before a year since they produce eggs earlier than a year so i dont see the difference between fertile and non fertile. Not meaning to hijack, just my thought on a couple of the other posts

 

[laurie]

dang, 8 months ?? i have a jackson that's making 1yr this month but still beleive she's not old enough to mate. am i missing something here?

No you aren't missing a thing. I wait until I feel the cham is old enough, never under a year for me, and has the body mass. They don't all grow at the same rate so it is always something each person has to determine for them self. i will say if they are bred young it will most likely shorten their life span. Just as in humans, the whole reproductive thing takes a big toll on a females body. I have a female quad that I really, really want to breed, but she is 14 months but still small. I hate waiting but I don't want to lose her, so I wait - just not patiently!!!

 

[ChamBust]

No you aren't missing a thing. I wait until I feel the cham is old enough, never under a year for me, and has the body mass. They don't all grow at the same rate so it is always something each person has to determine for them self. i will say if they are bred young it will most likely shorten their life span. Just as in humans, the whole reproductive thing takes a big toll on a females body. I have a female quad that I really, really want to breed, but she is 14 months but still small. I hate waiting but I don't want to lose her, so I wait - just not patiently!!!

I know all too well what you mean laurie! My girl seems open to breeding with my guys but i know once she starts putting out clutches, her lifespan will shorten drastically. I've progressed in leaps and bounds w/her since first getting her so just trying not to get ahead of myself lol.

 

[ChamBust]

Congrats good luck with them. Keep us updated!

I dont see any reason really not to breed before a year since they produce eggs earlier than a year so i dont see the difference between fertile and non fertile. Not meaning to hijack, just my thought on a couple of the other posts

well for me i have live bearing jacksons so anything pre-age and pre-size is a risk

 

[Olimpia]

Even just laying infertiles can put the female's life at stake (people forget that for all animals, birthing is the biggest trauma your reproductive system (and sometimes body) will ever face), there have been cases of females being too small for the size of the clutch and suffering internal damage. Not egg binding, but just internal bleeding from the clutch. I think it's always important to keep females from laying ANY clutches at all for as long as possible. Size matters for this! Fertile ones drain more calcium too, because they have the nice white calcified shell, while the duds are yellow and not as well calcified.

 

[JRchameleons]

I dont see any reason really not to breed before a year since they produce eggs earlier than a year so i dont see the difference between fertile and non fertile. Not meaning to hijack, just my thought on a couple of the other posts

First of all, that's not necessarily true. Many keepers who don't overfeed their females can delay their first egg production for several months. I know that on Jann's egg-laying blog she states that Camille was 14 months old when she laid her first infertile clutch.

Secondly, there is a lot of evidence that producing fertile eggs is actually a good bit harder on their bodies than producing infertiles. Especially if they still have a lot of growing to do themselves.

Even just laying infertiles can put the female's life at stake (people forget that for all animals, birthing is the biggest trauma your reproductive system (and sometimes body) will ever face), there have been cases of females being too small for the size of the clutch and suffering internal damage. Not egg binding, but just internal bleeding from the clutch. I think it's always important to keep females from laying ANY clutches at all for as long as possible. Size matters for this! Fertile ones drain more calcium too, because they have the nice white calcified shell, while the duds are yellow and not as well calcified.

What she said.

Think about it this way: Yes, chameleons can typically mate and produce eggs as early as 6 months old. Human girls usually reach sexual maturity around 12 and then become physically capable of getting pregnant. Does that mean their bodies are ready and developed enough to give birth? Absolutely not.

But what's done is done. Now you need to take the best care of your female that you possibly can over the next month. I suggest ordering some pheonix worms or butterworms. I'm a big believer in trying to provide as much natural calcium as possible.

 

[mychamtini112012]

Just a random question, but I noticed in your other post you said you were only thirteen. When you mated your veileds, did you talk to your parents about this.? They have A LOT of babies, all which take lots to time, money, care, and space. I'm sure you aren't going to be providing all that money...

 

[VeiledChams]

I hope you know what you got yourself into.. Hopefully you're not going to be overwhelmed by all the work that taking care of babies takes.. It's not a walk in the park.. its not nearly as easy as taking care of 2 adults.. its much, much more work.