Does it really -matter male or female cage?

[reptoman]

I have a pair of ambilobe panthers that i keep in cages that are very close in size. Each cage is roughly 3' wide, 2' deep, and 4' tall. My problem with introducing the female into the male's cage is that she is very hostile and stresses easily when i try to handle her. The male on the other hand will walk onto my hand or arm any time of day with no prompting. He even appears to enjoy the encounters so much that if I don't reach in and let him walk onto me, he attmepts to climb the screen doors to get me to open them. Given the size of the cages, would it be doable to put the male into the females cage in an attempt to breed them. thanks

 

[Fearaffect]

Yea, either way is fine.....I havent had any problems with introducing either to eithers cage.

 

[Jonas]

Its not a matter of size, its about biology.
In nature the male will probably have a large territory with females in the perifery. He knows this territory.
When introducing him to the famale cage it will be totally new territory for him, he might feel the need to claim it instead of mating.

You could try, but I would not recommend it and you need to be able to break them up really fast.

 

[Fearaffect]

another thing, at least this happens with my panthers......once they mate....u can forget about wanting to be held...........mine always become aggressive once they breed, while the females calm down......just my experience.....

 

[reptoman]

Thanks for the advice. I will wait a while longer and think about it.

 

[OldSkoolxReasons]

I have the same problem with my female. Ususally people introduce the female into the males but i put my male into the females and they breed. It just took him about 10 mins to get used to his new enclosure, then he started bobbing and turning orange and blue.

 

[sandrachameleon]

I always bring the male to the female and this has never been a problem. (my females dont have small cages)

 

[ChromaChameleons]

If the female is super aggressive, I'd consider a neutral venue. Do you have a ficus tree handy?? Your female might feel she is fighting for her life , if her cage is encroached upon.

If you intend to stay nearby , then you can try the male in with the female , but be prepared!

 

[reptoman]

I decided to try the male in with the female in her cage. How long do I keep them together? He went for her pretty quickly and now he is slowly following her around bobbing his head up and down.

 

[sandrachameleon]

If she gapes or hisses or flares up and generally looks like she hate him, remove him pretty much immediatly. If she looks receptive, leave them for the day or until they mate or she changes her mind.

 

[reptoman]

Please forgive the lengthy post. I put them together around 10am and watched them pretty closely trying to give them some privacy. She freaked out at the initial approach but after gaping once, she took off with him following. After a minute or two, she seemed to calm down and he got on her back. When i looked in on them 10 minutes later, she was moving slowly around her cage with him following. They returned to the original branch and he got on her back and stayed there for 40 minutes. I checked on them every 10 minutes or so and finally they were separated and just sitting there a foot apart. I removed him at that point and put him back in his own cage. Does this sound like a successful mating to you?

 

[reptoman]

I have another question about behaviour after breeding. Right now, he is in full mating colors and bobbing around his cage moving in a jerking motion. She is sitting on the top of her cage and has turned darker than I have ever seen her before. Is this typical after mating? It has been a little over an hour since I separated them. thanks

 

[kinyonga]

If she's turning dark, then she is gravid...get ready for eggs! Have you got a place for her to dig in her cage? Sometimes they lay the first clutch earlier than the usual 30 days depending on where she was in her cycle when they mated....so its important to be ready. Good luck!

 

[reptoman]

i have read that you should introduce the egg laying bucket with moist sand at around the 20 day mark. I will probably get one ready and put it in there sooner than that. Thanks for the reply. This is one exciting day! I will update on her progress.
Any advise on what the medium should be for the laying bucket? I was going to use playsand and peatmoss mixture and get it wet enough so it wont cave in when she digs. I have also seen on here that a small plant may make it more comfortable for her. I have plenty of room at the bottom of the cage.

 

[OldSkoolxReasons]

I always like to get the alying bin in there ealier than the 20 day mark just so she can get use to it as part of ehr home. also how old are your male and female? from what I can see in your avatar your male has a nice red face with clean blue barring. He's very nice looking.

 

[reptoman]

I got them both at 6 months in February so they are roughly 14-15 months old now. His color is much brighter than the avitar now.View attachment 16161